New engine suppliers


Champion Elect
Fair comment Grizzly...
that is what I meant re de-tuned.
my memory slipped re '97 and the Mechachrome / Williams debacle.


I was gutted when they dropped out, i knew Williams would struggle the next year, but in some ways it was bitter sweet with them dropping Hill in his championship year:dizzy:


Staff Member
Interesting little update to this story.

Gilles Simon has this week resigned his role as the FIA's director of power train and electronics.
His new job will be technical director at PURE.

So the man who wrote the regulations on the new engine is now going to work for an engine manufacturer :D


Leave me alone I'm on Smoko
Surely with Kobi pushing the F1 ratings back up in Japan Honda have to be considering coming back in for 2013 right?

anyone heard any sniff of it?

Chad Stewarthill

Champion Elect

A Honda V6 turbo engine in a Mclaren perhaps?

Where've I heard that before?


Bill Boddy

Professional layabout
Premium Contributor
Formula 1's engine makers wants reassurances that engine specialist Gilles Simon, who currently works with the FIA, will not take secret information with him to new employer PURE.

Fortunately PURE is operated by Craig Pollock, so we can be sure that all is open and above board.

Amongst Pollock's previous enterprises was, of course, BAR. There he not only employed Jacques Villeneuve (at what was rumoured to be a very large salary, as befits a former WDC) he managed him as well. I presume that he did not negotiate the salary since he finished up with a cut himself, but instead left it to an independant adjudicator.


Champion Elect
Premium Contributor
Well apparantly McLaren won't be joining the list of new suppliers, Jonathan Neale says it is McLaren's intention to remain with Mercedes for the forseeable future and past the engine regulation changes in 2014. This should put to bed the rumours of McLaren manufacturing their own power plant to become a 'British Ferrari'. Still this doesn't rule out the possibility of it ever happening as McLaren may simply be wanting to learn what they can from the new engines that Mercedes produces and use that knowledge and apply it to their engines.


Karting amateur
Is this V6 a stop-gap interim and are they still heading towards the smaller 4-cylinders? I lost my way with this when they kept changing thier minds.

I quite liked the idea they talked about where the new regs for the 4 cylinder were going to be non-mandatory for a year, so we would have a split of teams running V6 and then the rest stealing the march with the smaller turbo powered plants.


Not a Moderator
Valued Member
The 4-cylinder has been dropped, from 2014 it will all be V6 turbos. Having atmospherics and turbos racing together seldom works out well.
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