Jenson Button

Arguably the best ever driver in mixed conditions, all his wins at Mclaren have come in those conditions. His last race win in the dry came at the 2009 Turkish GP.

Button is known for his smooth driving style and is normally seen in must races doing one less stop than his rivals for tyres.

Buttons also know to be a bit of a practical joker and will take part in anything fun.

Since his debut in 2000 Button has won the majority of hearts in this country. But what is your favourite JB win?

Mine has to be Hungaroring 2006, in argubly a midfield team and he won the race in those mixed conditions to take his first win. I can remember James Allen been in tears almost and that was the first race Anthony Davidson ever commentated on.

 

[RasputinLives]

Is everyone ok if I just ignore Ray's post? thanks

I certainly don't like him the most

However when he first came on the scene I had high hopes as he is from East of where I grew up

But that evaporated with his greedy contract talks and playboy carry on in his second season

The Media (and Mr Briatorie) loved to find stories about Button's playboy lifestyle and his 'greedy' nature back then because he was a young sports star and it made greats sales for newspapers - just the same as they used to and like to write the same types of stories about Lewis Hamilton. I find it odd you chose to believe one set and not the other.

 

[Brogan]

Is everyone ok if I just ignore Ray's post?

Coming soon...

http://cliptheapex.com/threads/plans-for-ignore-feature.3324/

 

[Cookinflatsix]

I don't have my mind programmed by the press

There has not been any impression of Lewis appearing disloyal, greedy, motivated by money and the high life or moving to Monaco.

Lewis at thet age was being forced to brake later and later by his broke working class father who had 2 jobs. Jensons racing car dad would have made sure Jensons route was a little easier

Anyway I don't want to get into this as I am tired of F1 and it's peculiar values

 

[teabagyokel]

I'm not sure many 31 year olds would want to be judged by their antics as a 21 year old.

I believe it is courteous to afford Mr. Button that same respect.

Your socialism is misplaced in this instance.

 

[The Artist.....]

I don't have my mind programmed by the press

There has not been any impression of Lewis appearing disloyal, greedy, motivated by money and the high life or moving to Monaco.

Lewis at thet age was being forced to brake later and later by his broke working class father who had 2 jobs. Jensons racing car dad would have made sure Jensons route was a little easier

Anyway I don't want to get into this as I am tired of F1 and it's peculiar values

Hmm... Shows how much you actually know about Jenson Button.

I'm not going to talk about the whys and wherefores about the funding of Lewis Hamilton's career, but if you want to know about Button...

Ok, so he had a well funded karting career, but when it came to cars, his dad couldn't afford to bankroll him! Button gained support from sponsors, not least after his amazing performance in British FF1600 (And the FF festival), whilst for F3, he didn't have the budget that was required - so had to take a drive with the (less fancied) Renault powered team. Yet, despite having a power deficit, he still won several races, but at the end of the season, there was no money left. The only option was to go into F1!

It is certainly NOT true that Button's career was bankrolled by his "racing driver" dad....

 

[Road of Bones]

I've been wanting to say this in this thread because it's Jenson's thread but haven't becuse of a personal attack on me but here goes:

Button's shit start and shit re-start cost McLaren a victory at Monza yesterday.

Button was way down in 7th on Lap 5...not the way to go about winning a dry race.

If I were Ron Dennis i'd be livid with Button having my car way down in 7th on Lap 5 after starting 3rd on the grid...and I wouldn't care that he finished "on the Podium".

There was a win in that car yesterday. Period.

...hmm, I seem to recall that the other McLaren didn't cover itself in glory on the start, or the re-start either.

 

[RayInTorontoCanada]

Is everyone ok if I just ignore Ray's post?

So, there's absolutely nothing in any of my posts that makes you look at things in a different light?

It would be a boring place if everyone here loved McLaren or Lewis or Jenson and ignored everything except the good stuff.

I'm not an Osterich. I appreciate McLaren, Hamilton and Button...but i'm not going to blindly follow the party line.

 

[landogeorgelewis1]

Is everyone ok if I just ignore Ray's post? thanks

The Media (and Mr Briatorie) loved to find stories about Button's playboy lifestyle and his 'greedy' nature back then because he was a young sports star and it made greats sales for newspapers - just the same as they used to and like to write the same types of stories about Lewis Hamilton. I find it odd you chose to believe one set and not the other.

I have to agree it irritates the hell out of me that our Media try and make up stories about our sportstars personal lifes. Just let them live an ordinary life and let them do what they paid to do which is drive!

 

[RayInTorontoCanada]

...hmm, I seem to recall that the other McLaren didn't cover itself in glory on the start, or the re-start either.

I already was critical of Lewis' restart in his own thread.

As per his actual start, I don't think there was anything wrong with it.

Lewis was wheel to wheel down the straight with Vettel who had excessive wheelspin (he - Vettel - was pointed slightly off centre on the grid, if you note)...while Alonso and his engineers geared him longer for the start.

So, to me, Lewis' start was fine. His re-start was another matter.

 

[Cookinflatsix]

Please

Read my post again, I did not mention bankrolled, I said eased the way e.g. starting with karts

A baby of 1 month already has certain traits that it will have at 31, no one is perfect but I prefer those drivers that wear hearts on sleeves over those that scheme and behave in non altruistic mode always

I prefer the fact that some drivers with hearts in the right place come second instead of drivers who scheme their way to first.

There is no level playing field so I understand why some scheme and plot, hats off to them, I just don't like them as much

Please do not drag me into a squabble about this, I respect Jenson and all of you

 

[RasputinLives]

So, there's absolutely nothing in any of my posts that makes you look at things in a different light?

Coming from someone who half the time doesn't even read what other people are saying I find that a little rich.

I have to agree it irritates the hell out of me that our Media try and make up stories about our sportstars personal lifes. Just let them live an ordinary life and let them do what they paid to do which is drive!

Me too - build em up and knock them down is the way it works and then people wonder why we're not more succesful in various sports!

 

[Road of Bones]

Yeah - just read your post on the Hamilton thread Ray...

I still think your comments were out of order. As keeps being pointed out, a race is much more than the first corner these days, and Jenson demonstrated quite ably that dropping down to 7th (because of a clutch issue, I read somewhere) was not the end of his race by any stretch. I happen to think that recovering from 7th to 2nd, and passing 3 WDCs in the process is a pretty good return for an afternoon's work.

Yes, I can almost smell you preparing to type something along the lines of "...but McLaren exist to win, and neither of them did yesterday...", but when all is said and done, nobody was really likely to beat Vettel at Monza this weekend - not when he had an extra half a second in qualifying.

 

[RasputinLives]

There is no level playing field so I understand why some scheme and plot, hats off to them, I just don't like them as much

Please do not drag me into a squabble about this, I respect Jenson and all of you

Thats fair enough Cook. I would say that there are people who are far worse ploters and schemers than Jenson (Ayrton Senna anyone?) but if thats your reason I respect your opinion.

 

[teabagyokel]

not when he had an extra half a second in qualifying.

Though I don't think they'd have caught Seb, I think they may have been closer had they completed their second laps.

 

[Cookinflatsix]

Ha I see your plan, but I won't fall for it

Senna, beyond wanting the best car got out plotted and out schemed and generally out 'rat like behaviour' ed by the likes of Prost the French and European F1 oligarchy and his one retaliation on track (after pole position was manipulated to the dirty side) has resulted in his demonisation as a schemer?

This guy gave lots of money to the poor, the schemers I am talking about don't, they buy large yachts on the riviera.

 

[Grizzly]

Fantastic drive by Jenson in Monza. Shame about the clutch issues and slightly dubious top gear.

 

[teabagyokel]

He also gave a job to a very rich man when he vetoed Derek Warwick...

But don't make me laugh. He's not won anything by scheming! He's talked himself out of most of the best possible drives of his career and was nearly retired in 2008 when he clearly had more to give.

 

[RasputinLives]

really wasn't a plan Cook. Promise.

I would tell you to look here though http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/1823-jenson-button

I found it quite funny that we have such differing views sometimes Cook when we both def lean to the left. It goes to show you can 100% agree with someone fundementals and yet disagree completely on how to do things.

At least we keep it civil though eh?

 

[RayInTorontoCanada]

Yes, I can almost smell you preparing to type something along the lines of "...but McLaren exist to win, and neither of them did yesterday...", but when all is said and done, nobody was really likely to beat Vettel at Monza this weekend - not when he had an extra half a second in qualifying.

Half a second happened because Lewis locked up into the Roggia whilst Jenson decided to abort...but mainly because Lewis made a slight mistake into the Roggia which probably cost about 2-tenths, possibly 3-tenths.

TBY has it right. The gap wouldn't have vanished...but it wouldn't have been half a second.

Besides, RBR's advantage in Q3 doesn't translate into a similar performance advantage in the races and I know you know that because you're a very astute man.

 

[RayInTorontoCanada]

Coming from someone who half the time doesn't even read what other people are saying I find that a little rich.

I actually read ALL of your posts because they're lucid and well written, to be honest.