Current Fernando Alonso

Suprised there's no thread (although I had one for his blogs), so i'll start off:

A double world championship vs Raikkonen and then Schumacher in 2005 and 2006 respectively elevated Alonso's status but, apparently, no one told his rookie teammate at his brand new team of a theoretical 'pecking order' the following season ... and the Spaniard was 'seen off' by the young Englishman, Hamilton, into two years of Wilderness while both Hamilton and an even younger Vettel began to make their mark through '08 and '09.

Arguably, Alonso was in the Top 3 of all the Formula One 'Aces' in the 2000s following Hakkinen's retirement - up there with either Schumacher/Raikkonen and, then, Raikkonen/Hamilton - and remains so in the early 2010s along with Hamilton/Vettel...with only Kubica knocking on the door until the Pole's horrible Rallying accident.

A question mark initially over 2004 during which Trulli lead him in the standing until the Italian fell out with ex-manager and team boss Flavio Briatore (Alonso's then business manager) under dubious circumstances after the French Grand Prix.

Another question mark is...Who has progressed more since the end of 2007: Hamilton or Alonso?

A fan. Then came the unfortunate blackmail allegations against McLaren boss Ron Dennis on the morning of the 2007 Hungarian GP which came to light at the highly costly FIA 'Spy-Gate' hearings before Spa...followed by the odour of the deliberate crashing of the Number 2 Renault car at Singapore in 2008 which lead to Alonso finishing 1st in the event and ended in the banning of Briatore and Pat Symmonds a year later.

2009 was a poor year with 'Nando's' mind likely on the prospect of Santander paving the way to better prospects at Maranello one year earlier.

2010 was a fresh start at Ferrari (who no longer had Schumacher walking through the premises regularly) but first half season mistakes ultimately cost him a title inspite of being infamously aided by a Team Orders switch w Massa at Hockenheim (which lead to more world-wide criticism).

Relatively fast, relatively consistent but prone to mistakes and a possible insecurity complex (*) based on wanting sole focus from a team and being only happy with a Number 2 in the other car running behind him. Anything else and it seemingly rattles him.

(*) This is my own personal opinion.

..and so to 2011...

He's underperformed only at Malaysia (hit Hamilton) and China (invisible while Massa challenged McLarens and Red Bulls) and, arguably, Canada...but has maximized his chances in the other 6 races culminating in the British GP win.

He said in his post-Monaco blog that 'Silverstone would be the WDC cut-off'...and so, after some major upgrades, the Ferrari looks a winner again. It might be too late for 2011 given Vettel's finishing rate...but the 2012 regs means they should keep the hammer down at Maranello.

He's signed on through to 2016...So hopes are high of a WDC at some juncture...but not yet.
 
siffert_fan - That's where Ecclestone has them by the short and curlies, though. They need for any income the F1 product* to be strong, because a collapse of the F1 brand* would be the roof collapsing with teams trapped under the rubble.

So they need to continue pulling for the F1 show* and compete, because it is they (not Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes) who'll collapse if Ecclestone's paddock club of cards falls.

*My use of this word is not an endorsement of it.
 
The notion of any team boycotting any race for any kind of reason is quite honestly asinine. But a team boycotting a race because somebody else's engine/hybrid/defibrillator acted up might just take the cake!

Not that anything like that actually happened mind you.
 
It's a non-story put out by Bild to try and elicit a reaction. The Melbourne GP organisers have stated that they know nothing of any boycott, and no actual teams have said anything, have they?

Pure click bait, nothing more...:rolleyes:
 
McLaren had the pace of Andrea Moda in testing, maybe they also had the flagrant disregard for their British drivers?

But seriously, had Button had a serious injury or worse having a similar accident, then the legal ramifications would be huge. You may see people in prison, and Jess Button owning the MTC, Prost's car from 1988 and a selection of items from Ron's personal lexicon.
 
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Couldn't agree more Mephistopheles. Alarm bells possibly sounded to some of the other teams when the FIA launched an inquiry. The other factor that raises suspicions is Martin Brundle and other commentators questioning whether McLaren are holding back information. I think they became concerned after the photographer who witnessed the accident claimed Alonso appeared to be unconscious before the car hit the wall. Whatever the truth F1 can't afford to have a fatality due to a team being secretive and holding back information which is probably why in part, the FIA have become involved.
Despite saying all that I still agree with you, surely McLaren wouldn't endanger Jenson Buttons life by putting him in a car if it had dangerous design flaws. The other teams should trust their designers and go racing.
 
It would be illogical to think they would endanger another drivers life or anyone else's life in such a way, after all Flavio Briatore isn't running the team is he...
 
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Of course Mephistopheles, completely illogical. The problem was created by McLaren being so slow and vague with their statements and of course then we have Ronspeak. Why can't he string a normal sentence together instead of speaking in riddles. We also have Eric Boullier's statement, what the hell is a normal testing accident, it was clearly anything but, followed by Vettel saying it was a slow speed accident. Why did he say that now we have the telemetry stating he crashed at racing speed. No wonder there's so much confusion and so many questions being asked.
 
I think that we are going to see a really bad McLaren / Honda car at the start of the season. I think Alonso will be very happy to NOT be driving it.
 
Titch ..... Sadly I think your right. They probably won't finish and if they do will almost certainly be lapped. Ohhh dear. :facepalm: I certainly hope they get on top of their problems quickly for the sake of the season. F1 needs a competitive McLaren just as much as it needs a competitive Ferrari. The sport needs the top players fighting for podiums, for me that means Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren and I'd love to see a top flight Williams again. In 2016 we could see more teams fighting for pole and wins than we've ever seen in the sports history.
 
Who is Alonso's manager exactly? Briatore or that Luis Garcia bloke? The same media outlets refer to Alonso's manager Entique in one article and Alonso's manager Briatore in another. Or does he have a collection of them?
 
The Beeb article has photos of a clean shaven Alonso with Briatore and implies that he is Alonso's manager. Strangely all the other reports that I have seen, from the Grauniad to the Daily Mail seem to think that Alonso's manager is Luis Garcia Abad.

My money would be on the latter were I a gambling man.
 
Yeah but no one knows who Luis Garcia Abdad is so they say its Briatore so the 'casual F1 fan' can understand. The masses are dumb right so the clever old BBC need to dumb it all down for us to be spoon fed. ;)
 
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