Current Fernando Alonso

Suprised there's no thread (although I had one for his blogs), so i'll start off:

A double world championship vs Raikkonen and then Schumacher in 2005 and 2006 respectively elevated Alonso's status but, apparently, no one told his rookie teammate at his brand new team of a theoretical 'pecking order' the following season ... and the Spaniard was 'seen off' by the young Englishman, Hamilton, into two years of Wilderness while both Hamilton and an even younger Vettel began to make their mark through '08 and '09.

Arguably, Alonso was in the Top 3 of all the Formula One 'Aces' in the 2000s following Hakkinen's retirement - up there with either Schumacher/Raikkonen and, then, Raikkonen/Hamilton - and remains so in the early 2010s along with Hamilton/Vettel...with only Kubica knocking on the door until the Pole's horrible Rallying accident.

A question mark initially over 2004 during which Trulli lead him in the standing until the Italian fell out with ex-manager and team boss Flavio Briatore (Alonso's then business manager) under dubious circumstances after the French Grand Prix.

Another question mark is...Who has progressed more since the end of 2007: Hamilton or Alonso?

A fan. Then came the unfortunate blackmail allegations against McLaren boss Ron Dennis on the morning of the 2007 Hungarian GP which came to light at the highly costly FIA 'Spy-Gate' hearings before Spa...followed by the odour of the deliberate crashing of the Number 2 Renault car at Singapore in 2008 which lead to Alonso finishing 1st in the event and ended in the banning of Briatore and Pat Symmonds a year later.

2009 was a poor year with 'Nando's' mind likely on the prospect of Santander paving the way to better prospects at Maranello one year earlier.

2010 was a fresh start at Ferrari (who no longer had Schumacher walking through the premises regularly) but first half season mistakes ultimately cost him a title inspite of being infamously aided by a Team Orders switch w Massa at Hockenheim (which lead to more world-wide criticism).

Relatively fast, relatively consistent but prone to mistakes and a possible insecurity complex (*) based on wanting sole focus from a team and being only happy with a Number 2 in the other car running behind him. Anything else and it seemingly rattles him.

(*) This is my own personal opinion.

..and so to 2011...

He's underperformed only at Malaysia (hit Hamilton) and China (invisible while Massa challenged McLarens and Red Bulls) and, arguably, Canada...but has maximized his chances in the other 6 races culminating in the British GP win.

He said in his post-Monaco blog that 'Silverstone would be the WDC cut-off'...and so, after some major upgrades, the Ferrari looks a winner again. It might be too late for 2011 given Vettel's finishing rate...but the 2012 regs means they should keep the hammer down at Maranello.

He's signed on through to 2016...So hopes are high of a WDC at some juncture...but not yet.
 
Not accusing you of anything Fenderman, we usually get on well and I don't want to change that. :)
I'm sure you would agree that many, if not most on this thread appear to lay the blame with Alonso, I don't and thought I'd add a little balance. Maybe we'll just agree to disagree on this occasion, I have no problem with that at all. :cheers:
 
The question was asked what would have happened if it was a wall rather than a run off and Brundle said Alonso would have backed out. Given it's a run off and not a wall he didn't have to.
 
I've not yet commented on this, I will put my opinion and then leave it at that.

Since the 2nd half of 2010 onwards I've done nothing but sing his praises. He's still my driver of the year for 2011.

However on this occasion I believe he should have either given back the place or been given a penalty for keeping it.
He had to go off track to be side by side with Vergne to begin with. And had he not gone 4 wheels off the track he could not have completed the overtake. It was also avoidable, he could have lifted off the accelerator and avoided it.

This I feel was an incident of the rules not being applied equally to all, had this been Hamilton I have no doubt he would have got the drive through penalty.
 
Yep - I'd agree with this, its the sort of incident that raises the idea that some teams (well one) get favourable treatment. Of course, had the most impacted driver not been powered by a Ferrari engine and the second driver impacted not also been in a Ferrari then the complaints might have been louder and the result different. But I'd definitely add to those that if the car at fault hadn't been red it probably would have been different also.

More than that you only have to see how Alonso went over the kerb to realise that it was also just particularly stupid and dangerous and fundamentally unnecessary, surely he'd have got straight passed the TR anyway. Presumably he was more concerned about getting in behind Massa rather than Vergne.
 
Even more to the point it apparently never occurred to anyone in charge at the FIA that it might be quite important to ensure track designs incorporate a straightforward pit-lane exit on the inside line of a pit-straight at a safe distance from the racing line. Or is it intentional for new tracks to have a gimmicky pit-lane exit, sort of spice things up a bit?... :rolleyes:
 
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I like how Alonso says he's happy with 2nd in the WDC, without the 2nd best car. If Massa wasn't so crap then Ferrari would have beaten Mercedes. Alonso needs to stop bigging himself up, he did this in 2012 saying he had the 6th fastest car.
 
Ok if you swapped the teams do you think that Alonso/Massa in Mercedes' would have beaten Hamilton/Rosberg in Ferraris? Personally I don't think so.

Sure the Merc could qualify well but when Alonso slots in behind them in 5th anyway and has the 2nd best race pace after the Red Bulls (don't forget the Ferrari's reliability too), is he in a worse car?

The difference between Mercedes finishing 2nd and Ferrari 3rd was Felipe Massa.
 
That article is just a load of bollocks but personally I don't think Alonso was as good as he was in 2012 and there were moments where he didn't look at his best and times where he maybe seemed to lose a bit of motivation. I can't blame him for that but despite somehow getting the Ferrari in to second yet again I'm not sure I would put him in my top three for the year, at least in terms of driver performance compared to expectations.
 
The Guardian's F1 page hasn't been worth bothering with for several years now. A few years ago they were writing about the outcome of the WDC "in Rio De Janeiro"...
 
Fernando seems to increase in my estimation year on year. He seems to be the one driver guaranteed to squeeze as much out of the car as seems possible. I'm not convinced even Sebastian could manage that so consistently in a less-than-top car (though annoyingly he probably would too!).
 
Much more importantly, he's got a face that's just designed for Caption Competitions.
He's got an elastic face!
His range of facial expressions can be so hilarious, just take a peek at his twitter account for pictures. Goldmine for caption competitions the net over.
 
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