Right, the family have gone to a Halloween party, so I have some time. Firstly to answer some of the excellent questions posed by Galahad. I have included the first few words of each of Galahads paragraphs in italics and answered them in turn.
Firstly, I need
Always good to start with a compliment, you now have my undivided attention.
As such I don't
True we are not yet at the point where the computer has eradicated the human element, but it is plain to see that the computer is now providing answers to racing problems quickly and accurately, just as in aerospace. The differences between the solutions, to problems, that individual teams come up with are now quite small, and I think we are now at a decision point. Different people will always have different ideas about when the point has been reached, but is this important? The fact that it is either here now, not quite or been and gone, doesn’t alter the fact that a change is needed.
Regarding more frequent rule changes, this does upset the field (less and less as computers become ever more powerful) but, apparently, not as much as it upsets the teams as they feel compelled to throw money at rule changes.
I believe it is excessive downforce that is the problem. It is impossible to have non as this position is adjacent to lift, so the cars would be a little flighty to say the least. Lower levels of downforce needs to be controlled directly (parametrically) but remain in a relationship with other parameters so that it can contribute to the performance differentials and be a huge contributor to the visual diversity of a series.
As regards your piece
Gosh, even my toes are blushing. During the many late evenings, and very early mornings, spent putting this together, I wondered a thousand times if I was actually suffering some form of madness and was completely deluded. The positive responses I have since been receiving from the industry and the forums, have justified my efforts.
Moving on to the content
Again, I agree that the tipping point has not yet been reached, but would we see it coming or just find ourselves well and truly ‘in it’ so to speak. Formula 1 must avoid the tipping point at all costs, they are usually quite devastating for a business; as you say, look at Indycar.
I also agree with the four
There is very little to add to this statement. Perfect.
As for the
Yes, it is difficult with our 3D brains (built for a 3D world) to think in 4 or more dimensions, but just knowing that it is possible must suffice. Good luck to the design engineers! Isn’t this a great asset?
Tackling the "Landscape"
The tracks have converged for the reasons discussed on page 30 of the doc. and yes, the first few Divergent seasons will be run on a less than ideal landscape. However, once downforce has been successfully reigned in, the tracks can begin to metamorphose into the necessary varied backdrop for a diverse series. I’m convinced that the removal of one or two chicanes and the opening up of some radii will massively diversify the landscape. The subsequent adoption of more radical ideas such as returning Hockenhiem to a fantastic mix of speedway and stadium, plus re-commissioning some of the tracks not destroyed by Formula 1, will follow once the concept has proved itself.
As far as conformance over
I think I may have not made myself perfectly clear on this point. I also agree that, under a pure parametric system, allowing the teams to develop would result in a form of convergence (at each track) and this would not be good. The pure parametric system illustrates the absolute control of costs that the system attains, through addressing the root cause directly. Whether this degree of cost control is desirable is another question altogether. I personally prefer the solution discussed in ‘Formula 1 incorporation strategy’ (page 48). This utilises the fundamental mechanism that is the foundation of total cost control in a way that can absolutely direct, with supreme precision, where the spend race should be focused; the consumption of resource. This is the key benefit to true root cause identification, you then have the power to do with it what you like!
I wondered about the
This would work for certain relationships where both parameters are difficult to achieve, such as high power and low weight, but many relationships may result in convergence at one end if the other is too hard to reach, e.g. the inverse relationship between tyre allowance and downforce (page 47) could mean that if the number of tyre sets was too low most would go to the end with more tyres available. This is something that could be tweaked slightly each season to keep the carrot in sight but just, ever so, slightly difficult to reach. Also, if Divergent Governance begins to gather pace and some real life, actual race car designers become involved, my hope is that they can come up with relationships that I hadn’t thought about that would be challenging. Time will, hopefully, tell.
The question of adjustability
For a fully parametric framework, something similar to what is already applied at any spec series (like Indycar) would likely suffice. The exact degree has not been discussed yet as, at this stage, it would be irrelevant.
Having done some Game Theory
I cannot begin to tell you how excited I am by this aspect of the whole concept, it would be a completely new sphere of intrigue and interest within motorsport. Each new season car launch would create more buzz than a world cup final, and that’s before a wheel had turned in competition. My money would be on a varied field that oscillates, on a several year cycle, in many different directions. And the dream scenario would be that every now and then a team would show up, from nowhere, with a solution no one had even thought about. Take a look at the feature on the website regarding Cambridge University. An economist and a game theorist are about to start work proving the stability of diversity within the framework I have proposed.
I also wonder whether in reality there would be complete freedom
Yes, as per the answer above. It is for this reason the barriers to entry must be kept low so that new teams can easily bring new solutions. Also, teams that are doing well will not feel the need to experiment as much as the lower teams do. A team with a limited budget would be more hungry for the niche with the least near neighbours and spend more time experimenting to find it.
In summary, this excites me greatly and I believe in your idea.
Thank you for your very thoughtful comments and encouragement. I truly believe that Divergent Governance could be the game changer that has been needed for so long. It still requires much work but what I hope to achieve from these forum posts is fan power. If we really believe that this could be a great idea it needs to be heralded as such and shown to as many people as possible within the motorsport world.
Thankyou again Galahad.
Next is Chad
Is there not a tendency to convergent
Human nature will play the part you describe, but the rewards for diversity should soon prove this to be a poor strategy.
When it comes to maintaining
Ideally the tracks in a season will be diverse and challenging. As you point out, commercial consideration may mean, at least initially, that the tacks may not be ideal, but if the concept proves itself the will to alter the tracks accordingly will be met.
Hello Cider and Toast.
Re; Game theory. A perfect analogy, please take a look at the website for an introduction to the work about to be started at Cambridge.
At the moment in F1
Successful innovations are copied in a convergent framework as all teams are trying to answer the same question. The penalty for matching your opponent in a divergent series would be equally shared between the copied and the copier
Given an equal playing field
I’m hoping that the haves and the have nots would be less apparent, as there would be less advantage to spending huge amounts and more to innovative thinking, which is free. Also, the nature of Divergent Governance should reduce the tendency for a few teams to dominate at all tracks and allow teams on smaller budgets to do well at tracks that suit their design niche.
The concept of linking key
Yes, in that elementary example the lap time are identical, but that was necessary to illustrate the concept of how to achieve a performance differential within a level arena. Therefore the winner would be there on merit. From this basic building block we suppose a series where the theoretical, sum total of a teams best laps, for a whole season, must be equal. Thus, different cars will perform differently at different tracks, while maintaining a fair and level arena. The overtaking will come from the fact that each teams near niche neighbours will be trading advantage around the circuit, resulting in many battles up and down the grid.
That brings me back
When the relationships are developed the assumption will be that everybody will produce excellent designs that push known technology to the boundaries. This should result in a curve that rewards excellence wherever that may be. If a team is not doing so well it will be because they are too close to other teams and diluting their opportunity for points, or that they simply are not very good. Following the leaders design strategy will not help in either case.
If you place a restriction
Yes, this is dealt with on page 41. This is one of the reasons why the Formula 1 incorporation strategy enables development within the relationships for consumption of resource.
The flip side to all
Thankyou.
In principle it's a
I agree. Indycar will be debating this concept very soon but the more fans shouting for it the more impetus the will be to overcome the difficulties. As for Formula 1, we are at the bottom of a very large, steep, rocky and unforgiving hill, hope you’re up for it!!
The feature on the Red / Blue game is also interesting and relates to the comments on game theory.
So, if OK with you Chad I’ll go straight to your comment beginning;
My reservation though
I think that the range of diversity needs to reflect what is best for the sports show. Have aero downforce but the range needs to be from as low as is practical and safe, up to maybe no more than 1 or 1.5g. The same goes for grip, have a range of tyre allowance but the upper end still requires quite hard rubber.
And yes, convergence BAAAD.
That was very thought provoking, and I know it can sometimes take more than one reading for the kernel of the concept to be fully realised in the imagination, but once you find you can speak ‘Divergent’ all of these difficult elements drop into place.
Great stuff guys and hope to hear more thoughts soon.
Rich