My point exactly. An engine fire, not a crash. It's not hard to get out a car even if it does have a halo and it's on fire. Halo crashed and on fire maybe a different matter.
A major risk in the event of a fire is a lack of breathable air for the driver, hence the need for rapid egress from the vehicle, flame retardant overalls minimise the risk of burns, not the risk of suffocation.
It's unlikely there would be a fire. It's even less likely a fire would be so intense to envelope the drivers cockpit and reduce his breathable air. It's even less likely that this would of happened and a crash had occurred. It's even less likely that this crash would of happened in such a way that the Halo specifically stopped the driver from escaping. It's even less likely that marshals wouldn't be able to put the fire out very quickly.
Could a halo protect a driver from death in a crash? yes! Could a halo be the direct cause of a drivers death in a crash? Extremely unlikely!
Could a halo protect a driver from death in a crash? yes! Could a halo be the direct cause of a drivers death in a crash? Extremely unlikely!
I see they may trot out Red Bull's solution soon.
Anything would be better than that ridiculous halo
Anything would be better than that ridiculous halo
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What they believe it could look like, with its first test in Russia.
Red Bull could test canopy concept at Russian GP
Red Bull could test canopy concept at Russian GP
So they describe Horner as former World Champion.
He's a champion ****.
He's a champion ****.
Doesn't look to shabby. If they have to have something then this looks the best option so far. Might be some weird vortices in the cockpit though. Considering how little of the driver you can see in todays cars anyway, I don't have a problem with losing sight of the driver due to a canopy / cover. As long as the cars are damn fast. But, the on-board shot showing the driver's hands and display, whilst also showing the road ahead, might be compromised. That would be a shame.
Thats so much better. It would appear someone at Red Bull used common sense.
It's that old Bernie principle at play. You know most people don't want something so you introduce something that everyone agrees is absolutely awful. Then, you get someone else to introduce what you really want and every one says "oh that's much better" forgetting that they never wanted it in the first place.
I've said it before and I will say it again. I really don't buy into the whole Bernie has a secret plan thing. I think people credit the weirdo with too much reverence when things go right and are too keen to pass the buck when things go wrong.
I was just talking about a tactic he has used in meetings on a number of occasions (as quoted in at least 2 F1 biogs I have read) and noticing the similarity with the Halo. I'm not implying that Bernie wants the Halo in.
What I'm suggesting is that the design of the first idea was rushed out and tested in the full knowledge that most people would be shocked at how ugly the thing looks and, when a more subtle version arrives, everyone would then agree that it's the best option and it's job done.
I wonder if we ran the poll again with the options 'nothing' 'halo' 'windscreen' which one would come out on top. My bet is that of all those that originally suggested that there was no requirement for a device of this type, a significant number would shift their votes to the 'windscreen' design.
What I'm suggesting is that the design of the first idea was rushed out and tested in the full knowledge that most people would be shocked at how ugly the thing looks and, when a more subtle version arrives, everyone would then agree that it's the best option and it's job done.
I wonder if we ran the poll again with the options 'nothing' 'halo' 'windscreen' which one would come out on top. My bet is that of all those that originally suggested that there was no requirement for a device of this type, a significant number would shift their votes to the 'windscreen' design.
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