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Nope well i'm sure he'll remember it for the rest of his life anyways.
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Nope well i'm sure he'll remember it for the rest of his life anyways.
I think everyone was off course that day!
Nice idea for a thread, meph, which is why it has moved here: http://cliptheapex.com/threads/f1-midfielder-or-winner-elsewhere.4479/
OK, the 2001 Australian Grand Prix saw the debuts of several drivers, three of which had 52 Grand Prix between them. Other than 1991 in Belgium, has a single Grand Prix's debutants gone on to more success?
There have been 13 occasions in the world championship era when more than one race winning driver has made their debut in the same race. In descending order of combined wins, these are:
1. Australian GP 2001
52 wins (Alonso 27, Raikkonen 18, Montoya 7)
2. British GP 1950
30 wins (Fangio 24, Farina 5, Fagioli 1)
3. Australian GP 2002
18 wins (Massa 11, Webber 7)
4. Australian GP 2007
18 wins (Hamilton 17, Kovalainen 1)
5. Monaco GP 1950
17 wins (Ascari 13, Gonzalez 2, Trintignant 2)
6. British GP 1977
8 wins (G Villeneuve 6, Tambay 2)
7. Monaco GP 1960
7 wins (Surtees 6, Ginther 1)
8. Dutch GP 1970
7 wins (Regazzoni 5, Gethin 1, Cevert 1)
9. Australian GP 1997
7 wins (R Schumacher 6, Trulli 1)
10. Indianapolis 500 1950
6 wins (Parsons 1, Wallard 1, Ruttman 1, Flaherty 1, Hanks 1, Rathmann 1)
11. Brazilian GP 1994
4 wins (Frentzen 3, Panis 1)
12. Indianapolis 500 1951
3 wins (Vukovich 2, Ward 1)
13. Indianapolis 500 1952
2 wins (Sweikert 1, Bryan 1)
Well isn't NASCAR only in U.S.A.? Therefore all the travelling doesn't happen and the cost of developing a car for different types of circuits doesn't happen much either, don't they all use modified road car chassis. Forgive my lack of knowledge here as I have never watched a NASCAR event.
I may be wrong but I think that drivers in the 50's and 60s had an even tougher schedule than todays drivers as not only did they drive in F1 in championship and non championship rounds they also drove in Formula 2, 24 hour races, indy 500, touring cars and anything else they could get there hands on all in the same year..They probably raced every single weekend
Most of the extra racing was just to keep their eye in for the F1. In 1967 the F2 races had a class system, where F1 drivers could race but not score championship points. I think in one of Jimmy's championship years he won the British Touring Cars, but also there were only about 9 races each year.
Just as well there were as few as eight years in the season when he drove. To make up for it the races were longer, getting past the three hour mark was not unusual; they were rarely shorter than two and three quarter hours.
Which is another reason I believe the drivers work load was higher back then for a lot less money and a hell of a lot more danger, so the next time you hear a modern day driver complain about how much PR work he has to do, don't feel sorry for him they are well recompensed for it, and they are doing something most of us would give an organ for..
I think in 1969 Jackie Stewart had to do over 80 transatlantic flights for various PR events for Ford.
Who has won the most races in their career and yet never won the WDC?
The top five are:
Stirling Moss (16 wins)
David Coulthard (13 wins)
Carlos Reutemann (12 wins)
Rubens Barrichello (11 wins)
Felipe Massa (11 wins)
Felipe just missed out bless him
Thanks lads
Thanks lads
I think Mark Webber may beat those unfortunate stats
Naw, mate. He's got to win 9 races, hasn't he?
It could happen if he stays with Red Bull for the next nine seasons
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