Grand Prix 2013 British Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

So we arrive in Northamptonshire for the next installment of the 2013 season and back in Europe for the next few months following the early season trip over the pond to Canada, an event that saw Sebastian Vettel ominously stretch his championship lead over Fernando Alonso and Kim Räikkönen to 36 points after an utterly dominant victory in Montreal.

A track steeped in history, Silverstone has been in use since the very beginning of the Formula One. Indeed, the former airfield hosted it's first British Grand Prix in 1948. Recent years have seen this historic race track come under threat of being dropped from the calendar but problems at Donington and the renovations first used in 2010 helped to secure a 17 year deal between the BRDC and Ecclestone for Silverstone's future.

Vettel has himself won here in 2009 and will seek to further increase the pressure on his title rivals. However, it has been Red Bull team mate Mark Webber who has had the upper hand over the triple world champion in Britain, having taken four straight podiums, including two wins. Red Bull maestro Adrian Newey has himself had 12 wins here as a designer since 1991 (possibly 13 if you include 1997) but he should perhaps let his pilots do the driving here at Silverstone :)

Alonso, who has shared the podium with the Red Bulls in the last two years, has also traditionally ran well round Silverstone, with wins in 2006 and 2011 and three second places in 2005, 2007 and 2012. He will not want to ruin this record and, following his strong damage-limitation race in Canada, fall further behind Vettel in the championship. His Ferrari teammate Felipe Massa has, by contrast, never finished in the top 3 here and has often struggled, particularly his 5 spin nightmare in 2008.

Following the storm of controversy over 'Pirelli-gate'/'secret-tyre-test-gate', Mercedes followed up their victory in Monaco with a solid 3rd and 5th in Canada. Lewis Hamilton keeps picking up the points to stay distantly in touch with Vettel and will be hoping for another strong performance at his home Grand Prix. Perhaps his most dominant victory was here in 2008 with podiums in 2007 and 2010 but he has struggled in the last couple of years. Nico Rosberg has only finished on the podium once here in 2010. Silverstone will certainly test whether Mercedes have gained anything from Barcelona.

After a promising start to the season, Lotus have found themselves struggling of late. Worryingly, Räikkönen has only scored 3 points in the last two races, one due to a collision and the other due to poor strategy choice but he can break the points streak record here at Silverstone. Kimi won here in 2007 and has scored four other podiums so he also has a good record in Britain. His Lotus partner, Romain Grosjean has to start performing (and not mounting other cars!) or his race seat could be under threat. His only outing here was last year but he scored a solid 6th place despite an early front wing change following contact with Paul di Resta.

2013's surprise package Force India continue to rack up the points. Di Resta himself has been in cracking form and his one stop race to 7th in Canada suggests that there is no wane on the horizon. He has had little in the way of luck at home having had problems in 2011 and the aforementioned early clash last year that led to his retirement from the race. Speaking of luck, his team mate Adrian Sutil has yet to find much this year (isn't that right Brogan?) although his actions in Canada were stupid at best. He has only scored once at Silverstone.

As for the rest -

Mclaren's woes continued in Canada with their long points streak coming to an end. Jenson Button has surprisingly never scored a podium here and this doesn't look like changing. Perez had a collision last year but was 7th in 2011.

Toro Rosso have looked quite racy this season and JEV coasted to a comfortable sixth place in Canada whilst Ricciardo is also showing potential. Neither finished in the points last year but have performed well in junior races.

Sauber have yet to rediscover their 2012 form and only two points finishes all season - both for Hulkenberg - is a cause for concern. The Hulk was in the points in 2010. Gutierrez has won four races at Silverstone in junior formulae (twice in 2008 Formula BMW, 2010 GP3, 2012 GP2) to suggest he could be on for his first points of the season.

Williams have yet to score this season. Maldonado has not had a good season and his F1 form at Silverstone leaves much to be desired. Despite a stunning qualifying performance by Valtteri Bottas at Canada, he simply went backwards in the race. He won a Formula Renault race here in 2008 but the 2013 Williams is just too poor.

Marussia seem to have a slight advantage over Caterham, and in both teams the Frenchmen appear to have the measure over their teammates.

The typical British weather could see some spanners thrown in but the safe money appears to be on another Red Bull victory. Hopefully we have race to make both championships a bit exciting. So what do you guys think? And whoever is going - have a great weekend!
 
Just came back from holiday and watched the race. Very exciting, tyres or not, great race, saw several drivers come through the field and the championship has opened up a little.

Rosberg I would say was probably gifted the win. Wasn't extremely fast, but he was there, and capatilised when it mattered. 2 wins for Mercedes this season, both going to Rosberg, who would have thought that? Add to that, he's only 7 points of off Hamilton despite his early season troubles.

Webber drove superbly, although aided by two safety cars, just missed out on the win. Nice battle with Raikkonen, but his terrible starts continue, and got hit by the 'first lap nutcase' (not Grosjeans fault though).

Alonso I felt wasn't that great, poor start, poor first stint, took too much life out of his tyres in the second stint, a bit lucky to have got third.

Hamilton was the first to have get struck by the Pirelli dark side during the race, recovered well and had some battles along the way, best one being with di Resta. He didn't pit near the end, yet he still had some great pace. Being the first one to be struck by the punctures, he did inherit a few positions along the way once they got the others LOL

Raikkonen surely must be pissed off with his team? Why didn't the team pit him I hear you all say, biggest brainfade this season, and possibly cost them second, even maybe a win. Got a great start then like Alonso broughth himself into the race, since Lotus have a tyre advantage, why don't they undercut more often?

Storming start by Massa, 11th to 5th by a few turns, was on for a great result and looked like the better out of the two Ferrari drivers. Was looking at a possible podium until he was struck by a puncture, lost a lot of time due to where it happened, and like Hamilton, recovered well deserved better than 6th.

Sutil kept it in there, was hampered by both safety cars, and like Raikkonen losing out on points due to the team not pitting him at the end.

Ricciardo was on for a better result like Sutil but both safety cars stopped that from happening. Points again for Toro Rosso, considering that McLaren will stop developing soon, Toro Rosso could possibly jump them.

Di Resta gets points once again, maybe he should start from the back more often?

A cheeky point for Hulkenberg, Sauber pull away from Williams, it's all they can really do, the rest are too far away or too far behind.

A shame for Vettel really, wasn't keen on the fans cheering, being honest though, I started cheering myself a little hehe, but once the crowd started to I stopped, opens up the championship a bit. Doesn't run well at his home race, so maybe Alonso and Raikkonen can gain on him while they can.

Felt sorry for those that got struck by the random Pirelli explosions, it made the race exciting though, but I swear I saw Bernie with his hand on a trigger each time the tyres went.

Anyway, F1 next week :D

PS. I bought a pair of Ferrari Dr.Dre beats for £9 on holiday and they are quality :D
 
According to the BBC this is a bit of what Pirelli have said:
A statement from Pirelli insisted the 2013 tyre "does not compromise driver safety in any way if used in the correct manner".
Pirelli attributed blame to the teams mounting the rear tyres the wrong way around, running low tyre pressures, using extreme cambers - the angle at which the wheel is mounted on the suspension - and what it described as "high kerbs" at Silverstone.

full link here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23155008

My gran used to say the more excuses you come out with the less real they are. Looks like Pirelli are trying the 'anyone but us' blame game. Personally I think silverstone was a perfect cocktail of circumstances but it's too dangerous a sport to be taking silly chances.
Who do I blame...Pirelli? not really, Teams? the politicls don't help but again not really their fault. I blame the FIA for the stupid no testing rule. Telling Pirelli to make certain tyres but not allowing them to test them properly is like saying 'have a bank account, we're not going to tell you how much you've got in there but you're not allowed to go overdrawn'. D'oh!
 
Then these people get what they deserve don't they. Would they run a drive shaft "the wrong way round"? No. If they found venting the exhaust into the driver helmet gave them they and extra 1/10th of a second would they? No (well, maybe some would). So why do they think it's an acceptable risk to put the tyres on the wrong way round, at angle they aren't designed to work at and at operating pressures which means they wobble like a jelly. Fucking idiots, it's the teams which are putting the drivers lives at risk not Pirellii.
 
Dizzi but Pirelli did say that they made errors. That is why they wanted to introduce new tyres in the first place. It was not specifically to do with the safety issue, however, that was before there were any significant issues. They even tried the new tyres at Canada for all the good it did them. They also changed the bonding process to address the delamination issue.

so, I am in no way absolving Pirelli from all blame, but they cannot be held responsible for the consequences of the teams not running the tyres in the manner for which they were designed.

And if anyone thinks that the teams would consider safety first, think back to Spa 2012 (I think) when Red Bull had the choice to adjust the camber angles on the front wheels, and start from the Pit Lane, or to leave them as they were, and risk tyre failures.

they left them as they were.

I would be interested to know what would have happened in the event of a tyre failure.
 
The Pits but I didn't blame Pirelli, they just started sounding like a kid who'd forgotten his homework & says the dog ate it then it blew away then it landed in a puddle. If you're going to try and deflect blame make it simple.
Thanks for pointing out the admission of problems, I admit that had passed me by :cheers:
It seems the teams have been palying silly buggers with the tyres anyway. I wonder if the tyres will come with a "not our fault if they aren't used properly" clause now?
 
Do they have a "Direction of Rotation" arrow on them like road tyres? Often see tyres with a crayon arrow on them to make sure the mechanic fits them on the correct way round.
 
I thought the whole swapping sides thing was based around trying to prevent the de-laminations from earlier in the season, and was not exactly a secret so... meh!
 
I had a superb time at Silverstone! Sorry think I may have missed all the threads LOL. Pretty sure I missed the race poll....don't know where it is now! I was gutted on lap 8 , but yes I had an amazing weekend! Love Silverstone!!( heart smilie!)
 
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