Grand Prix 2012 Monaco Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

For the first time in 3 decades there have been 5 different winners in 5 races and it's not exactly been the status quo winning races as not many people would have had Rosberg and Maldanado winning this early in the season and after Australia not many people would have bet on Alonso winning before the start of the European season. This is also when drivers like Hamilton, Webber, Raikkonnen and Schumacher havent won this season and the way things are going there could be 8 winners after 8 races which could almost be unprecedented.

Indeed, one thing that 2012 has shown is that no one team has been consistently fighting for the win at all five 5 races, while Lotus have possibly had the most consistent pace of the top teams, problems in the first two races meant they were unable to be competing for the win while Kimi might have been unlucky to not come away with at least one win in Bahrain and Barcelona where strategy troubles robbed him the top step but two podiums have shown that he still has the pace despite being away from the sport for 2 years.

The big surprise of the weekend was a first victory for Maldonado and a first victory for Williams since the 2004 Brazilian Grand Prix, a win which was merited with no outside help apart from the disqualification of Hamilton from qualifying and the effect of this is unknown as to how the race would have been different but in the race Pastor drove the wheels off the car and did extremely well to keep a rejuvenated Fernando Alonso behind in an updated Ferrari on home soil. Considering Ferrari's early season struggles, for Alonso to be joint leading the Championship with Vettel is no mean feat at all.

The field is very tightly packed as well with the top 7 drivers being separated by 20 points, this time last year it was nearly 100 with Vettel claiming 4 of the first 5 races. This year that is not the case and for once Barcelona served up a classic which in my opinion was the best race of the season, finally there was close racing from 1st down to last with the outcome not being decided until the last few laps.

Going into Monaco there is no point prediction what the running order will be as the likelihood is it'll change again, for all we know the Force India's could suddenly be at the front and Lotus might only be fighting for points, it certainly makes for extremely fascinating viewing as no-one is dominating the Championship, in the city of the high rollers and casinos, it remains who will strike lucky in Monte Carlo and claim the big win, it will certainly not be boring, after all, if even Barcelona can provide an entertaining race, surely most places can (with the exception of Valencia!)
 
I don't understand why the Spa incident was kind of swept under the carpet. Intentionally driving into someone has to be the worst incident possible in F1. I think F1 drivers need a reminder that they are driving killing machines here. I don't think you'd see that sort of disrespect in the 60s.
It's called Risk Compensation Theory and although it mainly refers to road cars it obviously applies to F1 as well. Basically, as the safety of the cars and tracks improve, the drivers 'compensate' by taking greater liberties in the way they race each other. Had Maldonado stayed out of trouble, the Spa incident may have gone away, but it is bound to resurface now.
 
Punishment needs to be representative this time; was it 5 place drop in Spa?
Can't really equate this, his second seemingly intentional collision with another driver, with for example, MS having an accidental collision with someone. Bully boy tactics. Where else was Perez meant tpo go on this track?
 
gdeacon7 That is very true. The chances of Maldonado killing someone doing that are probably quite small, but the fact that driving a machine like this into someone should kill them without the modern day safety means it is beyond disrespectful. Can you imagine how insulting it would be to be into that sort of danger intentionally, by somebody. And for what?
 
johnnoble1990 I'm with you 100% that it's dangerous and beyond disrespectful. On principle as well as safety grounds, no driver should intend to make contact with another. I just think that the 'he could kill someone' outrage is a bit forced and overblown for such a low-speed incident. His conduct is bad enough that we don't need to exaggerate it just to make our point.
 
In the past these incidents are always severly punished: Bandini - Hill at Mexico 64, Senna - Prost Suzuka 90, Schumacher - Hill at Adelaide 94.

Or not.

Besides Davidson's opinion is there any other evidence that it was not just a misjudgement from Pastor?
 
johnnoble1990 I'm with you 100% that it's dangerous and beyond disrespectful. On principle as well as safety grounds, no driver should intend to make contact with another. I just think that the 'he could kill someone' outrage is a bit forced and overblown for such a low-speed incident. His conduct is bad enough that we don't need to exaggerate it just to make our point.

I wasn't just talking about this particular incident. As I said the chances of killing someone are pretty small, but these are machines that have can kill and so drivers have a huge responsibility on them to drive sensibly, something it seems they are forgetting.
 
GermanF1 Offended? lol. My point is that if someone intentionally drove into someone and killed them what would happen to this sport? You can't do this sort of thing, regardless of the speed.
 
johnnoble1990
Alright and I say you should not always put all the hypothetical options in, because in every accident something freakish could happen, which would lead to someone killed or something. Do you think that Ralf Schumacher should have been sent home for his accident with Jacques Villeneuve in Australia in 2001 (i guess it was). I don't. There was nothing intentional about Ralf's accident back then and nothing intentional about Maldonado's today...
 
Well, it is a repeat offense. They shouldn't wait till he does it at a higher speed for them to make it clear that it is not acceptable. The only reason they were going so slow was because it is Monaco. I don't think he will get a penalty though as they'd have to prove some kind of intent which is nearly impossible. Might get a 5 grid place drop.
 
I hope it rains at some point in the weekend just to liven up the annual Monaco bore fest.
 
I really don't know if it was intentional or not johnnoble1990, as the only one who knows is Maldonado himself, but by the looks of it, it doesn't look intentional to me. Why would he do that anyway, as he would clearly risk to destroy his car for qualifying??...
 
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