Grand Prix 2012 Monaco Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

For the first time in 3 decades there have been 5 different winners in 5 races and it's not exactly been the status quo winning races as not many people would have had Rosberg and Maldanado winning this early in the season and after Australia not many people would have bet on Alonso winning before the start of the European season. This is also when drivers like Hamilton, Webber, Raikkonnen and Schumacher havent won this season and the way things are going there could be 8 winners after 8 races which could almost be unprecedented.

Indeed, one thing that 2012 has shown is that no one team has been consistently fighting for the win at all five 5 races, while Lotus have possibly had the most consistent pace of the top teams, problems in the first two races meant they were unable to be competing for the win while Kimi might have been unlucky to not come away with at least one win in Bahrain and Barcelona where strategy troubles robbed him the top step but two podiums have shown that he still has the pace despite being away from the sport for 2 years.

The big surprise of the weekend was a first victory for Maldonado and a first victory for Williams since the 2004 Brazilian Grand Prix, a win which was merited with no outside help apart from the disqualification of Hamilton from qualifying and the effect of this is unknown as to how the race would have been different but in the race Pastor drove the wheels off the car and did extremely well to keep a rejuvenated Fernando Alonso behind in an updated Ferrari on home soil. Considering Ferrari's early season struggles, for Alonso to be joint leading the Championship with Vettel is no mean feat at all.

The field is very tightly packed as well with the top 7 drivers being separated by 20 points, this time last year it was nearly 100 with Vettel claiming 4 of the first 5 races. This year that is not the case and for once Barcelona served up a classic which in my opinion was the best race of the season, finally there was close racing from 1st down to last with the outcome not being decided until the last few laps.

Going into Monaco there is no point prediction what the running order will be as the likelihood is it'll change again, for all we know the Force India's could suddenly be at the front and Lotus might only be fighting for points, it certainly makes for extremely fascinating viewing as no-one is dominating the Championship, in the city of the high rollers and casinos, it remains who will strike lucky in Monte Carlo and claim the big win, it will certainly not be boring, after all, if even Barcelona can provide an entertaining race, surely most places can (with the exception of Valencia!)
 
Agree Monaco isn't racing due to lack of passing. However, F1 is more like roulette than racing thanks to the idiots at Pirelli.

I don't know how that is manifesting itself. Vettel and Alonso are leading the championship, Red Bull and Mclaren are leading the constructors. Sport is always roulette, except some drivers have bigger holes.
 
Anyways, back to the racing. Think Lotus and Grosjean have a good shot at pole this weekend. Lewis will still be the one to watch though. Monaco Q1 is always the most exciting as well. We could see some really big shocks here, as teams try to find space. Could we see the bigger teams heading straight out on super-softs?
 
Batman teams don't get 'lucky' - every team has the same tyres and they have to work to find the best strategy. In a normal dry race, there is no luck with regards to the tyres. As Chad Stewarthill said, Pirelli are only doing what they were asked to do, so it is wrong to blame them. The viewing figures for F1 worldwide suggest that no-one are idiots when it comes to the tyres.
 
To all who are critical of tyres and constantly measure the success of a GP by the number of overtakes.

There are three types of motorsport, Sprint racing, endurance racing and thankfully, falling between the two, Formula One Grand Prix's. If you want to watch an all out sprint from flag to flag with lots of overtaking, watch GP2, GP3, or sports such as Rallycross. Formula One is about much more than that and always has been, except during the period when refueling was allowed and GP's were broken up into a series of sprints between pitstops. Refueling was dropped due to the cost involved in transporting the required equipment all over the world as the sport expanded into Asia, and to a lesser extent on the grounds of safety. The result of this and the introduction of tyres with less durability has returned F1 to where it should be. Every aspect of a drivers skill should be tested, including the ability of a driver to remain competitive around a changing car as tyres wear and the fuel load reduces, defending as he brings his tyres up to their optimum working window, attacking when his tyres are at their best and the cars weight reaches its perfect balance. Surely this is exactly what F1 should be about. Regarding Monaco, it's never been suited to F1, except maybe during the 1500cc era, but there's more history at Monaco than almost any place on the planet. I'm sure the fans during the 30's, watching Rosemeyer, Caracciola, Seaman etc, roar around the streets of the Principality in their 600hp monsters didn't complain about the lack of overtaking and the fact that their tyres were shredding. I love the spectacle and history of Monaco and look forward to it every year. May it always be a part of F1.
 
I think the teams will want to boot in the super softs instantly, what with the rain on thurs and the threat of rain today. I think Ferrari and Lotus will have a good weekend (including Massa) - their times from practice on the soft tyre are very good.
 
I think F1 has been good in all forms; it is a shame we miss it all by spending the whole time talking about what type of racing we want to see. What other sport do you have that in?
 
mjo It's going to be a cracker of a Quali today. We will certainly have 1 or 2 shock early exits. If it rains it'll get even crazier.
 
I'm not sure if I want into rain or not - we will have a cracking quali and race if dry, but a wet Monaco is a great challenge. But it will be crazy if it rains - we might see an HRT in the top ten! But my tip for pole is one of Raikkonen/Grosjean/Alonso/Massa (yes, Massa!)
 
mjo....I really don't want it to rain but sadly I think it will during qualifying and the race. Monaco especially becomes a bit of a lottery in the wet. :(
 
It's a testament to F1 that we don't necessarily want it to rain in Monaco when only a few years ago we were all pining for it to rain. Anyway, Grosjean's pace on the harder tyre is unbelievable!
 
Not just his pace Mjo, which is difficult to judge with relative fuel loads, but his technique and car stability looks brilliant here. Huge credit to Grosjean. The fact that he's even competing with Kimi says a lot of his potential, and in quali he's bettered him mostly. I suspect Lewis and Grosjean will be the ones to watch.
 
...and as for rain, I know what you're saying about wanting it to stay dry, but I think even with F1 as it is now, rain always add that extra element of unpredictability, especially round here.
 
Very impressive. Vettel seems to be struggling, I think 5th or 6th is a bit optimistic from the commentators. Might struggle to make Q3
 
Wow...what a shocking few minutes from Maldonado. I was adamant he should've been given a ban when he drove into Lewis, now this? You can't intentionally drive into someone. I'd say sending him home for that sort of thing should be the minimum. What if he killed someone doing that?
 
Winning the last grand prix answered someone questions about Maldonado, but some more have been brought up here.
 
Maldonado just reminded me why I'm so reluctant to like him at all. Two incidents in consecutive laps. At the very least, it's a demonstration that he's still immature. The incident with Perez is very reminiscent of Spa 2011 Qualifying.
 
I don't understand why the Spa incident was kind of swept under the carpet. Intentionally driving into someone has to be the worst incident possible in F1. I think F1 drivers need a reminder that they are driving killing machines here. I don't think you'd see that sort of disrespect in the 60s.
 
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