Grand Prix 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Anyone fancy a protest?

Controversially it was announced that the Bahrain Grand Prix would go ahead despite opposition from almost everyone and the events that were happening in Bahrain both last year and again recently haven't seen the postponement of the 2012 race like the 2011 event. Reaction to the news has been mixed but it seems that the decision is final and there will once again be F1 cars in the Gulf state. The last race was held at the start of the 2010 season and by all accounts was the dullest race of the season with durable tyres and little overtaking with the only action at the front being a problem with Sebastian Vettel dropping him from first to fourth giving Fernando Alonso a win on his Ferrari debut with Felipe Massa finishing second, how that must feel a long time ago now for both the drivers and the team. Thankfully the painful extended modifications on the track have been abandoned for this year and the 'old' spec layout used from 2004-9 will be used which wasn't actually to bad and with DRS, KERS and the Pirelli tyres should provide for close racing and numerous overtakes.

Nico Rosberg will go into the Grand Prix weekend on the back of his best weekend in the sport. After taking his maiden pole by a margin on Saturday he successfully converted this into a maiden victory by winning by over 20 seconds from the Mclaren pair of Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton. The Mclarens battled various traffic issues and pit stop problems to claim the podium places in a titanic scrap where, at one point, only a handful of seconds seperated 2nd-10th. It is surprising that with so many cars in very close proximity for over half of the race that there was no crashes and barely any contact but there were cars flying about (in Webber's case literally) as cars hit the cliff with Kimi Raikkonnen being the primary case has he slipped from second to 14th as the tyres gave up on him and he even lost 8 places on one lap and that was without any spins or damage.

Over at Red Bull it is a complete contrast to 12 months ago as Sebastian Vettel struggles to get on the podium let alone win races while Mark Webber currently holds the upper hand in the team by leading 3-0 in qualifying and being higher in the drivers championship. This current superiority was emphasised late on in the Chinese Grand Prix when he drove around the outside of Vettel down at turn 14. Without the EBD the Red Bull has lost it's superiority over the rest of the field and this season is a true test of Vettel's racecraft and a true evaluation of where he stacks up as one of the great world champions and at the moment I would say he was a 6-7/10 as he has made some good overtaking moves and apart from a puncture in Malaysia has always moved forward on the grid from his starting position, but then that wasn't hard to do in China considering he started 11th on the grid, his lowest qualifying position since 2009 when Brawn were running riot.

The problems continue at Ferrari as Fernando Alonso fought the car to finish in 9th which could have been higher but for a combination of tyre of degradation and traffic at the wrong times that cost him time, but this is still a lot stronger than Massa in the sister Ferrari who continues to show that he shouldn't be a Ferrari driver after a mediocre race to 13th, he is showing almost no signs of improvement and he is rarely threatening the points these days let alone the podium and the championship challenging days of 2007 and 2008 must feel like a long time ago, if there isn't any improvement surely this will be his final year in a Ferrari seat.

So far 2012 has seen 3 different race winners in 3 races with Lewis Hamilton leading the championship from team mate Jenson Button despite Button winning the Australian Grand Prix which shows that Hamilton is getting back his consistency which won him the 2008 championship and shows that he has got over the demons of 2011 which is only a good thing for the championship fight with numerous people already showing that they are capable of fighting for the championship and today perhaps Rosberg threw his hat into the ring as a possible contender, it is certainly has the potential to be one of the closest championships in recent years and makes a change from the Red Bull dominated 2011 with Vettel steamrollering the field.

For Galahads brilliant circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/bahrain-international-circuit/
 
Just watching it on sky and they've analysed it and Johnny Herbert thinks Rosberg was at fault in both incidents and he though that the Hamilton one was far worse. Looking at different angles and on-board, Alonso was never side by side with him, but Hamilton was. I think he deserves a reprimand for the one with Alonso and a penalty for the one with Hamilton.
 
However.... the penalties seem to be related to impact on the other driver. Realistically, Hamilton still got ahead therefore how much was he penalised by Rosberg. It wouldn't surprise me if it's reprimand for both. I wish they'd pull their fingers out of their arses though and tell us.
 
I can't see how its a reprimand given the new rules about defending your line was in response to some of the dangerous driving that Schumacher and Hamilton have been accused of

If the stewards want to make a point then they have to show it otherwise what Rosberg did was deemed acceptable. Like I said if his name was Schumacher I am sure there would be serious uproar
 
FB Whitmarsh has just confirmed that on the programme. He also praised the mechanics but seemed to point the finger somwhat at the guy on that gun. They took him off for the las stop....which was `still twice as long as it shopuld have been, though much better than the rest. He also said hat they have a Ferrari style gun thing but won be rushing to implment it...migh have other issues.
 
I think it was dangerous and unnecessarily aggressive driving. It was such a sudden move, almost similar to that which Vettel did at the start a few times last season. At the start they seem to allow this and the cars are going much slower but this was a high speed incident and you can't say just because there's a run off area it's OK. If that was another track there could have been a serious incident. If there is just a reprimand given then no precedent is set.
 
Mclaren need to investigate whether its a design flaw in their guns and wheel nuts which causes the problem titanium wheels with aluminium cross thread wheelnuts

Is it the same guy who did Jenson;s stop last week?
 
Looks to me on the reply Rosberg started to shut the door before Hamilton was along side but Hamilton had such a good run on him he was along side him before Rosberg had reached the edge. I think they probably both surprised each other. Id agree with a reprimand as I don’t think he intended to push him off, just close that side of the track off.

But I wouldn’t be upset if he did get a penalty… actually I would, I’ve got him in my FF1! lol
 
There is a good reaon why the wheel nuts are aluminium. If you cross thread the nut you can replace it. If you cross thread the axle you're stuffed.

Also, the wheels are not titanium, Il_leone. They are magnesium alloy. The axle is titanium.
 
Tbh the only thing that should push this beyond a reprimand is that Rosberg was involved twice in one race.

Being reprimanded is appropriate, but if it is deemed that is deserved twice then a penalty has to be considered, so hopefully Rosberg is only going to be deemed of a single infringement and the points remain in accordance with where they crossed the finish line and the next race isn't messed around with.
 
But he hasn't learnt has he? A mistake last week, repeated this week and then followed with another entirely different error. That's not learning and moving on.
 
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