Grand Prix 2011 Hungarian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Who was saying 2011 was boring?

It's amazing how a few non Red Bull dominated races can change the complexion of F1 and suddenly it's exciting again. However before we get too carried away, Vettel still holds a massive points lead and despite a poor (by his standards) race in Germany, he is still hot favourite as the F1 circus rolls into Hungary.

Hungary isn't known for it's exciting races (apart from 2006 possibly thanks to the weather) due to the dust bowl and lack of overtaking oppurtunities, but if 2011 is anything to go by, the phrase 'no overtaking' has been thrown out of the dictionary.

Despite recent set backs Red Bull will be favourites to bounce back at a circuit which suits them to a tee with weather conditions that will be beneficial to Vettel who struggled with grip at the chilly Nurburgring. However Ferrari and Mclaren have shown that they won't just stand still and let Red Bull walk to the championship with Hamilton and Alonso winning in the last 2 grand prix.

Indeed Mclaren seemed to be in trouble going into the German GP as they were off the pace of the Red Bulls and Ferraris, but in Hamiltons hands the car made a miracle recovery to not only take a front row position ahead of Vettel, but take the teams third win of the season after very stiff competition from Alonso and Webber. Is this the start of the established teams fightback?

Even beleagured Ferrari driver Massa has showed improved form recently with two 5th placed positions in the last 2 races but they could have easily been 2 fourth places had it not been for a strong defensive rearguard from Hamilton in Silverstone and a pit stop mess up in Germany which enabled Vettel to get past on the last lap. As Ferrari plan to take the fight to Red Bull, they will need Massa to take points off Vettel and Webber if Alonso is to have any chance of a miracle fightback.

Mercedes are in a league of their own at the moment, but not in a good way. They are faster than the likes of Renault and Force India, but slower than Ferrari, Red Bull and Mclaren and the 7th/8th place almost has a Mercedes name penned in if there aren't any incidents, (which knowing Schumacher is rare)

Renault have dropped off badly after a strong start to the season and after a crash from Heidfeld and a poor race from Petrov, they now find themselves picking up the scraps in the midfield for 5th place in the championship as Mercedes start to pull away from the black and gold outfit, maybe a tweak of the exhaust might bring them better fortunes in Hungary.

One person who drove a great race in Germany but hardly got any recognition was Adrian Sutil who drove probably the best race of the German drivers. 6th place after a strong qualifying will no doubt relieve the pressure that had been building on him and will show to Di Resta that he won't have things his own way at Force India and that Hulkenberg might have to wait a while for a race seat.

No doubt that there won't be any uncertainties about the weather this weekend as more often than not Hungary provides a race weekend with 30 degree sunshine with not a cloud to be seen, apart from the 2006 race which was notable for Jenson Buttons first win in the Honda.

For Galahads superb circuit write up see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/hungaroring/
 
Aren't all acronyms shortenings?

acronym
ak-ruh-nim
–noun
1.
a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as Wac from Women's army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation

I'd say that DIR counts as an acronym.

Vettel could start every race till the end of the season and DNF or finish out of the points in every race. Unlikely perhaps, but he doesn't actually need to do quite that badly to still be overtaken if one other driver has a strong second half. Therefore it is not yet over.

DIR is an abbreviation.

PDR would be an acronym.

For once I feel justified in using the word "fact". (I didn't capitalise it though, so I guess we're OK.)
 
Good news for Ferrari, then. Personally, providing the weather stays warm and dry, I'm predicting a Ferrari 1-2. Alonso ahead of Massa, of course.
 
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I think they had resolved the problem with the hardest tyre anyway by Silverstone.
Alonso took third a tenth off Vettel there with the hard tyre on.

They still take a while getting heat into their tyres after just coming out the pits, as you can see with Alonso and Massa at Nurburgring, but it was more chilly then.

Good news for Ferrari, then. Personally, providing the weather stays warm and dry, I'm predicting a Ferrari 1-2. Alonso ahead of Massa, of course.

The teams will be using the softs and super softs in this race, so it shouldn't affect them as much.
 
There seems to be conflicting messages regarding the weather. Earlier today I noticed this on the BBC web-site from Sarah Holt's twitter: http://twitpic.com/5x36xd/full. It's the "Official Weather Forecast", whatever that is - presumably it's from the FIA/radar that all the teams use.

Seems to suggest that there's a chance of rain on Friday, Saturday and Sunday but only showers.
 
However, all the weather forecasts were predicting rain for Germany,but it never came. It seems that as long as there is showers in the area (central Europe) then anything can happen, weatherise.
 
Question - has there ever been a wet race in Hungry? - my brain(which turned 30 yesterday) doesn't seem to remember one

cue about 10 people telling me there was one last year or something
 
Anyone notice Sutil displaced for Hulkenberg this morning as opposed to Di Resta? Not sure if anything was said about it, don't have any sound on....
 
Does anyone know a website where I can see sector by sector times of all of a drivers laps completed in practice? In particular, I wanted to see how much Lewis was up on his best time before he got held up badly near the end of the session.
 
Is it just me or does it feel SO much closer at Hungary this year compared to last year? Red Bull look less dominant than they normally do, let alone being miles quicker than they were last year. It's interesting how McLaren are testing a new exhaust package. I wonder if they can get it working, it may give them some more rear downforce, which they badly need. You feel if they get that part of the car hooked up, they'll have a very fast package. Of course we have not seen Red Bull's potential and the track was damp, which usually suits McLaren more than their rivals, but it will be interesting to see how it develops. One thing is for sure, I can't imagine Red Bull being 1.2 seconds faster than Ferrari and 1.7 seconds faster than McLaren come Q3, but maybe they'll make me eat my words.
 
Is it just me or does it feel SO much closer at Hungary this year compared to last year? Red Bull look less dominant than they normally do
I have learned from experience over the last 10 races (and last season) to totally ignore all the practice sessions, and even Q1 and Q2.

When it gets to Q3 Red Bull will turn it on again.
 
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