Grand Prix 2011 Hungarian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Who was saying 2011 was boring?

It's amazing how a few non Red Bull dominated races can change the complexion of F1 and suddenly it's exciting again. However before we get too carried away, Vettel still holds a massive points lead and despite a poor (by his standards) race in Germany, he is still hot favourite as the F1 circus rolls into Hungary.

Hungary isn't known for it's exciting races (apart from 2006 possibly thanks to the weather) due to the dust bowl and lack of overtaking oppurtunities, but if 2011 is anything to go by, the phrase 'no overtaking' has been thrown out of the dictionary.

Despite recent set backs Red Bull will be favourites to bounce back at a circuit which suits them to a tee with weather conditions that will be beneficial to Vettel who struggled with grip at the chilly Nurburgring. However Ferrari and Mclaren have shown that they won't just stand still and let Red Bull walk to the championship with Hamilton and Alonso winning in the last 2 grand prix.

Indeed Mclaren seemed to be in trouble going into the German GP as they were off the pace of the Red Bulls and Ferraris, but in Hamiltons hands the car made a miracle recovery to not only take a front row position ahead of Vettel, but take the teams third win of the season after very stiff competition from Alonso and Webber. Is this the start of the established teams fightback?

Even beleagured Ferrari driver Massa has showed improved form recently with two 5th placed positions in the last 2 races but they could have easily been 2 fourth places had it not been for a strong defensive rearguard from Hamilton in Silverstone and a pit stop mess up in Germany which enabled Vettel to get past on the last lap. As Ferrari plan to take the fight to Red Bull, they will need Massa to take points off Vettel and Webber if Alonso is to have any chance of a miracle fightback.

Mercedes are in a league of their own at the moment, but not in a good way. They are faster than the likes of Renault and Force India, but slower than Ferrari, Red Bull and Mclaren and the 7th/8th place almost has a Mercedes name penned in if there aren't any incidents, (which knowing Schumacher is rare)

Renault have dropped off badly after a strong start to the season and after a crash from Heidfeld and a poor race from Petrov, they now find themselves picking up the scraps in the midfield for 5th place in the championship as Mercedes start to pull away from the black and gold outfit, maybe a tweak of the exhaust might bring them better fortunes in Hungary.

One person who drove a great race in Germany but hardly got any recognition was Adrian Sutil who drove probably the best race of the German drivers. 6th place after a strong qualifying will no doubt relieve the pressure that had been building on him and will show to Di Resta that he won't have things his own way at Force India and that Hulkenberg might have to wait a while for a race seat.

No doubt that there won't be any uncertainties about the weather this weekend as more often than not Hungary provides a race weekend with 30 degree sunshine with not a cloud to be seen, apart from the 2006 race which was notable for Jenson Buttons first win in the Honda.

For Galahads superb circuit write up see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/hungaroring/
 
McLaren found an interesting way to avoid a teammate battle today. Pretty much deprived us of a race at the front when they put Lewis on Super-Softs and Button Softs. That move ensured they wouldn't have a 1-2.

Great drive from Jense, but Lewis and Co. will know they squandered that one away.
 
I'm absolutely fuming because yet again strategy decisions, whoever they were made by, have let Lewis down and cost him a victory , and McLaren a 1-2, today. For me today also marks the end of any hope I had for the championship being anything other than a ridiculously one sided win for Vettel.
 
Fair play to Hamilton for alogising to Di Resta but ity raises an interesting point. The rules say you have to wait for incoming traffic after a spin , but how the hell can you see whether there's any traffic coming up when the trafficic in your blind spot behind you?
 
If he was on the right tyres the spin would not have happened. Everyone else was on the harder tyre. It was certainly the tyre call on the third pit stop that ruined Lewis' race. What a monumental foul up.
Possibly so, but it was a touchy call at the time - we look at all of this in hindsight (well, most of us do) - so as ever, who knows?
 
Sometimes watching F1 drivers in interview makes me feel like time is standing still but I'm still getting older, I prefer to see people honest than "professional."

Got to say I think it was the soft over super soft decision that put Hamilton's day into tale spin.

Hamilton was covering more of the race track by being stranded across than he did by spinning which actually moved him off the racing line. I can't resent stewards any more than I already do though, so no harm done.

Irritating to see Heidfeld's team give him a spontaneously combusting car once again. His confidence will already be low from the way Boullier's been trashing him constantly for ulterior motives.
 
There were four things that lost him the race:
  1. Going on to a third set of super softs was the wrong call.
  2. Caught out by being the first driver to come across a wet kerb.
  3. Going on to inters was the wrong call.
  4. Drive through, which was pretty harsh.
Sum total: 2 unnecessary pit stops, 1 unlucky spin, 1 harsh penalty = more than the 50 seconds he ended up behind. Frankly it's amazing he still managed to finish 4th.
 
Possibly so, but it was a touchy call at the time - we look at all of this in hindsight (well, most of us do) - so as ever, who knows?

Agreed. Ifs and buts. The guys at McLaren get paid for foresight though and on raceday hindsight isn't worth anyone's wages.
 
I still can't believe McLaren thought Lewis was going to be able to pull a gap to make an extra pit stop. Why, oh why did they split their strategies up. They needed a 1-2 in this race, and they did their best not to achieve it.
 
Under those circumstances, the driver has to wait for any oncoming traffic to clear before making the manoeuvre.

Hamilton didn't and di Resta was forced to go wide.

He should have waited until it was clear, he didn't, he was penalised.
 
Agreed. Ifs and buts. The guys at McLaren get paid for foresight though and on raceday hindsight isn't worth anyone's wages.
Very true - anything that relies on humanity is sometimes scuppered - whether you earn your wages is a whole new kettle of fish - I suspect they thought they had it covered at the time.
 
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