Grand Prix 2011 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's a long summer and the key discussions aren't about the F1.

As we are in the middle of the summer break, the SKY/BBC deal continues to take precedence over any on track action we saw at Hungary, which is a shame as we saw a cracker of a race where Jenson Button eventually won his second race of the season ahead of Sebastian Vettel who extended his lead at the top of the championship yet again and surely it takes a miracle for anyone to overtake him now with less than half the races to go.

However with Belgium coming closer on the calender, it seems as if Red Bull has lost the dominance it held over the first half of the season with McLaren appearing to have the best all round package with 4 wins now this year with 2 for Button and 2 for Hamilton. Ferrari aren't far behind and are perhaps the best team in warm conditions but that remains to be seen after a series of damp and cold races. However it would still be a foolish person to bet against Red Bull going into the Belgian Grand Prix where the fast sweeping corners and technical hairpins will no doubt play to their advantage.

Spa Francorchamps is regarded (quite rightly) as the best driver circuit on the calendar with the famous circuit having many variations from its original form to the current version which was last changed in 2006 to incorporate the new pit area and final chicane, the final chicane wasn't popular as both fans and drivers miss the challenging bus stop chicane and the 'new' pit lane which can cause problems.

The grand prix has been famous for it's unpredictable weather with violent storms and half the track being dry and the other wet at the same time and completely random showers, the big example was 2008 where a late shower caught out the entire field and cost Kimi Raikkonen (and eventually Hamilton) the win. In 1998 torrential rain caused one of the worst starts in F1 history where half the field was wiped out on turn 1, eventually (after a restart) Damon Hill won for Jordan in a 1-2 with Ralf Schumacher second, Michael Schumacher famously nearly started a fight with David Coulthard after crashing into him trying to lap him.

Michael Schumacher has an impressive record at this track, winning his first race at the track in 1992 and taking several wins at the track with his last coming in 2002 where he took his seventh world championship. However at the moment it is unlikely that he will add to his list of wins with the Mercedes well off the pace of the leading trio of Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull.

Mercedes might find themselves behind Force India at the race as the track suits them down to a tee, in 2009 Fisichella took a surprise pole position and then took second place just finishing behind Raikkonen in the Ferrari (who always seemed to win at Spa when he was driving there)
Sutil and Di Resta have shown impressive pace recently, with both achieving season bests at the last few races and are closing the gap to the flagging Renault team who have really lost performance since the start of the season with Heidfeld and Petrov dissapointing.

On a personal level I am really looking forward to this race as I have weekend tickets and will be at Pouhon all weekend to bring you the best coverage from the track, (better than these Sky lot anyway)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
Looks like McLaren screwed Jens' strategy-called him into the pits. MALDONADO>:(Idiotic!! That was so dangerous.Hope his car is ok. Looks to be.
 
For the tiniest fraction of time there, I though a car other than a Red Bull was going to be on pole...

Good job by Senna.
 
Senna outqualifies his team mate AND AlonsoLOLNot bad for a first race of the year. I SO thought Lewis had that pole. Wonder if this car is damaged?
 
Yeah I'm not sure what happened with Jenson. The McLaren is bouncing badly but Hamilton gets second. Don't be surprised to see him receive a penalty from the Maldonado incident.

Senna outqualifies Alonso ha.
 
Jenson just said he didn't got out for another lap, and that was all.
He was on his cool down lap when he let Lewis past, so that had no effect on his time.

I don't see how Lewis can be penalised - he took Maldonado cleanly and fairly on the last corner and it was Maldonado who moved over into Hamilton later on down the straight.
 
I don't see how Lewis can be penalised - he took Maldonado cleanly and fairly on the last corner and it was Maldonado who moved over into Hamilton later on down the straight.

I have to say that I'm not sure that Maldonado should be thrown out of the race - as some were calling for - whilst the incident was (mostly) Maldonado's fault, there is a question about what Hamilton was doing - he moved right out of La Source, got close to Maldo, then when they hit, again Hamilton was moving to the right of the circuit. I'm not, in ANY way blaming Hamilton, but I don't think it's quite as simple an explanation as Maldo moving over on Hamilton!
 
That was disgusting behaviour from Maldonado. I don't know how anyone on here can say that was Lewis's fault. Maldonado should start from the back of the grid!

>:(
 
maldonado is to blame for the second incident.the first one isnt something to be punished for.

and eventough jenson is unlucky,just because he was a second quicker in q1 means nothing.
because hamiltons q1 time wasnt a true reflection of what he could do.
 
Off topic, but not that long ago one of the drivers in the touring car races did a similar thing, but ended up wiping himself out.

He had to agree to do some sort of FIA sponsored safety roadshow, but wasn't banned.
 
he moved right out of La Source, got close to Maldo, then when they hit, again Hamilton was moving to the right of the circuit.

The circuit tapers at the point so it appeared like he was moving to the right and we've only seen a rear camera angle. Will be interesting to see the onboard footage. Maldonado did move over and shut the door pretty quickly. What is clear is that there is a bit more to the incident once you look at the bigger picture. I hope they both get away with nothing more than a warning but with Mansell on board who knows.
 
Very entertaining qualifying session there. McLaren misread the situation badly for Button. Force India made an even worse call as they brought di Resta in off a hot lap.

I've already got my overtake of the weekend. That was brilliant driving to slip by Maldonado, who clearly didn't know anybody was coming through. Completely amateur move to drive into Lewis. but I think it would be very harsh to suspend Pastor. Send him to the back of the grid.

We have the makings of an absolutely cracking GP tomorrow.
 
Hamilton was battling through slower cars to get a time-at that point he wasnt in the top 10,.. As soon as he saw Maldonado close to him, he moved away; then on the wide bit maldanado looked like he deliberately moved across. Looked like a childish petulant move. And an F1 car isnt a good place to play that game.
 
I for one don't really know what Maldonado wanted to achieve there, if he takes Hamilton out then he gets banned and probably suspended for a few races or season, and all he does is makes Lewis start 10th........I for one consider this very stupid.
 
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