Discussion in 'Teams' started by Brogan, Jul 9, 2011.
So long as he doesn't bring Craig Pollock with him, I could live with that.
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I should probably confirm that this is NOT a totally unbiased personal view, as JV is someone I've always had something of a soft spot for.
McLaren need to do something, they blamed the Honda engine for two years and it seemed logical that they could be right. This year they have the Renault engine and they're still nowhere, whilst Toro Rosso are doing okay with that engine thanks, so now who do you blame? It has to be internal issues that need addressing.
And rumours of a full season Indycar programme won't go away. Possibly Zak Brown is worrying about the wrong things?
Formula 1: Years before McLaren competitive again - Zak Brown
I'll get me coat!
It would be an odd move considering how freedom he is given at red bull & his last spell at mclaren didnt go well. He was trying to leave from 2001 - 2005
Mclaren apparently then had someone to keep an eye on Newey from then. At the same time Mercedes took over the engine building from Ilmor incorporated as part of Mercedes. This lead to the engine being underpowered and not able to last race distances which was most evident between 2003-2005.
Newey for his part , did deliver the potential championship winning Mclaren Mp4-20 which was let down by the Mercedes engine
Prior to that he designed the MP4-18 which was meant to be for 2003 but never raced because it failed crash tests despite its rumoured pace
From the Mp4-18 they rushed straight into MP4-19 which was woeful as vibrational issues meant constant engine and gearbox failures and the car was redesigned into MP4-19B which was far more competitive.
Newey and his team in 2006 left for Red Bull once the Mp4-21 was designed and it left Mclaren in slight disarray given the uncertainty surrounding the future of their drivers as well knowing that Alonso was already confirmed for 2007. The team should have won races but did not win any at all and Montoya was sacked half way into the season.
BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula One | De Ferran quits role with Honda
What is the role of "Sporting director??" , it sounds just as confusing as "Director of Football"
I don't blame Gil for quitting the Honda role because the team was in a mess in terms of directional leadership, too many decisions being made at the top and taking too long from people who don't understand motor racing and trying to run the team corporately.
Nick Fry who ran BAR Honda ended up taking them team to the back end of the grid from the front very quickly
As for Gil's team management experience - he ran his own ALMS team for one season which finished 2nd in 2009
He tried to run his own Indycar team which folded after 1 season
True & be might be the one he had the problem with. But as in F1 their in many teams that employees staying for decades. & they wont have forgotten him
According to Jordan, the talk of Indy is too distracting and Alonso has far too much power in the team.
The arrival of De Ferran will do nothing to change this as it's 'jobs for the boys'. De Ferran is apparently best mates with Zak Brown and his daughter is going out with Vandoorne.
They immediately cut to Zak Brown to discuss Eddie's bit afterwards. Awkward is the word that sprung to mind.
Ill to have find that clip
F1Brits_90 cider_and_toast I saw that bit prior to start of qualifying and Eddie did not hold back with Mclaren. A bit raw if your kids was watching to hear those things
I'll keep the Williams bit separate but with Mclaren
Off course Alonso trying to do thee triple crown is distracting because Brown admitted they want to keep him in the Mclaren " family"
Eddie said that heads would need to roll at Mclaren a few months back and Bouillier resigned but probably was about to be fired anyway
He does not have faith in De Ferran who is mates with Brown . Now to think it makes sense if De Ferran wanted an Indy Car team but had to close his team down and Mclaren are still unsure if they want to do Indy. Then getting De Ferran meant getting contacts to do Indycar with Alonso as possible one of the drivers and let Gil run the team
The final bit they need a technical director with leadership direction which is what everyone can clearly see with the mess Mclaren are in. So getting Ross Brawn should have been a primary objective
It seems like Peter Prodomou is not the right person to lead Mclaren design team
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