Irishgreen
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Hmmm... Don't like Mr Moss, tried to belittle every driver after him.
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Hmmm... Don't like Mr Moss, tried to belittle every driver after him.
Irishgreen
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Irishgreen you really need to learn how to tag...
Don't know how to don't really care. I'm 53 and know SFA about this but incubus and Hamberg taught me how to copy and paste, so hows about that smarty pants
Irishgreen
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PPS. I can now text with my thumb ( thanks Hamberg) 
The Pits all I'm saying is that a driver of Moss's calibre has a greater insight than we do, also there are twenty four drivers on the grid and not a single one of them is perfect they all have faults they all have different ways of applying their craft and they all have different personalties, some people like this driver or that driver and for a multitude of reasons, who people support is there own business, and makes absolutely no odds to me..
Where possible I try to apply a modicum of logic to an argument without getting emotionally involved but I can only say things as I see them and the last thing I would ever do is cast aspersions on a great man like Sir Stirling, and I hope that others wouldn't either....
Where possible I try to apply a modicum of logic to an argument without getting emotionally involved but I can only say things as I see them and the last thing I would ever do is cast aspersions on a great man like Sir Stirling, and I hope that others wouldn't either....
Irishgreen
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MP Here's a modicum of logic, he's an arrogant ole ****, he ridiculed every British driver after him and I'm IRISH........
racecub
Champion Elect
Everyone absolutely is entitled to an opinion, I couldn't agree more
Hmmm, by the fact you've brought Moss into this suggests I've probably missed a vital chunk of a conversation somewhere...
When Button went into the back of NK I was immediately cursing Hamilton for doing it again, I nearly fell of my chair when I realised it was Button. So yes agree with you meph, and as a Rosberg fan that especially during his Williams days was quite vocal that finishing consistently with good points over a win/dnf is often as important. Hamilton and Button last year demonstrated this beautifully.
What has been apparently twisted into a Button bashing session by moi is in fact me reviewing his wins from non pole and realising there were mostly extreme circumstances and therefore to say he has 'superb' racecraft is in fact not my interpretation. If he consistently does it in the dry where the front runners all finish then I'll happily revisit it, as I've done with my opinion of Vettel. At the moment, he's pretty good, superb is yet to be proven.
My latest reference back at the artist regarding it being an attempt to belittle Hamilton is to demonstrate how easy it is to twist things.
My final point, Alonso epitomises great racecraft and I've yet to see anyone on the current grid come close. He is 'superb'.
Disclaimer: all my personal opinion and not Button bashing
When Button went into the back of NK I was immediately cursing Hamilton for doing it again, I nearly fell of my chair when I realised it was Button. So yes agree with you meph, and as a Rosberg fan that especially during his Williams days was quite vocal that finishing consistently with good points over a win/dnf is often as important. Hamilton and Button last year demonstrated this beautifully.
What has been apparently twisted into a Button bashing session by moi is in fact me reviewing his wins from non pole and realising there were mostly extreme circumstances and therefore to say he has 'superb' racecraft is in fact not my interpretation. If he consistently does it in the dry where the front runners all finish then I'll happily revisit it, as I've done with my opinion of Vettel. At the moment, he's pretty good, superb is yet to be proven.
My latest reference back at the artist regarding it being an attempt to belittle Hamilton is to demonstrate how easy it is to twist things.
My final point, Alonso epitomises great racecraft and I've yet to see anyone on the current grid come close. He is 'superb'.
Disclaimer: all my personal opinion and not Button bashing
I'll defer to most of that Hamberg
But I honestly can't agree that Moss is arrogant (You never said that I know.) any man that would give the only title he was likely to win in favour of a fellow competitor (Mike Hawthorn.) is far from arrogant, and when a man falls down a lift shaft and breaks both his ankles at the age of 80 odd and calls it, a bit of a shunt. is a real man and one hard ass son of a bitch.....
But I honestly can't agree that Moss is arrogant (You never said that I know.) any man that would give the only title he was likely to win in favour of a fellow competitor (Mike Hawthorn.) is far from arrogant, and when a man falls down a lift shaft and breaks both his ankles at the age of 80 odd and calls it, a bit of a shunt. is a real man and one hard ass son of a bitch.....
An interesting discussion on pole but not really relevant to the JB vs LH thread so I've moved them here.
http://cliptheapex.com/threads/the-importance-of-pole-position.4608/
http://cliptheapex.com/threads/the-importance-of-pole-position.4608/
Il_leone
World Champion
So by "holding his own" and "matching" Hamilton making them "solid equals", Button is the "big winner"?
Surely if they were evenly matched it's a draw and neither one is the winner?
I know Davidson doesn't like Hamilton but still, his conclusion doesn't match his statements.
Surely if they were evenly matched it's a draw and neither one is the winner?
I know Davidson doesn't like Hamilton but still, his conclusion doesn't match his statements.
I wouldn't say that Brogan I've always known Button is a great driver and matching Lewis just confirms it, I think the article, like most of them is misleading, the only thing I can conclude from him being team mates with Lewis is that he did not disappoint me and just maybe made others sit up and realize he isn't a journey man, he is the real deal, right up there with the best of them....
Maybe even in the not to be mentioned top three.....
Maybe even in the not to be mentioned top three.....
Well quite he had the formula one career of a mayfly.....
racecub
Champion Elect
MephistophelesWell.......I guess that's a valid opinion.....I've concluded completely differently to you , but that's just a different opinion.
without this simple fact I would have thrown myself off of something very high a very long time ago.....
22 my dear...
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