Grand Prix 2016 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

People have different opinions about most of the F1 circuits but if there is something everybody agrees on is that SPA-Francorchamps circuit is great, for many their favourite.

How could it not, you've got the Ardennes forest, the very high speed, the ups and downs and iconic turns like La Source, Eau Rouge and Raidillon, Stavelot, Bus Stop. Could it be the motorsport heritage? For as long as cars have gone racing, Spa is associated with velocity. Of course at the turn of the 20th century they used the original circuit of 86km (or was it 118km?).

Even after it was shorten to 15km and then 7km, it kept its pedigree, its spirit. As the race comes closer, the anxiety continues to build in F1 fans; a 4-week summer break may be deserved for the drivers and teams but creates a void that cannot be filled with race reruns or silly season discussion. And it's mind-boggling that they have kept it as is but they've added more and more races (currently we are at 21) making each result of little relevance is the great scheme of things.

It is also Spa back in 1991 the race that saw the debut of F1 most successful driver ever, one Michael Schumacher. He never raced there before and went around the circuit in a bicycle to get to know it, before posting the best 7th time and running as high as 6th when his clutch gave up.

That was then but back to 2016, as it has been the case the past 3 years, Mercedes are the clear favourites. At the beginning of the year it seemed like this was going to be Nico Rosberg year, 4 victories in the first 4 races, a testimony of that, yet after his retirement in Spain the German has failed to recover his mojo and instead Lewis Hamilton seems destined to win his 4th championship (3rd in a row) with 6 victories in the last 7 races. It doesn’t seem likely that Rosberg is going to be a challenge for the remaining of the year which is a shame but confirms he’s not really a top-drawer driver.

Even though mathematically Mercedes can still lose the championship this year, it won’t happen and they have decided to go with a conservative approach to the race, having the fewest sets of supersoft tires. And why wouldn’t they, at the beginning of the year it seemed like Ferrari was mounting a challenge but they have clearly faded away. Also, after a stellar debut with the Scuderia last year, Sebastian Vettel seems to be at odds with the team. No longer have a quick smiled ear to ear but rather a wry one (if any); the German is conflicted by the lack of performance of his car and the off camera politics that are at play and seem to be more prevalent than ever. Almost the opposite can be said of Kimi Raikkonen who seemed to have recovered some of his flare, especially after his contract has been renewed for yet another year.

RedBull has taken over as the challenger to Mercedes but they are a few ways down the road when it comes to challenging the Silver Arrows. However the intra-team battle has been really interesting; Ricciardo the established lead and Max Verstappen the newcomer, very little separate them when it comes to qualifying and race results. If anything the young Dutch has allowed Daniel Ricciardo to shine again with superb performances in the past 2 races. Will the Aussie be able to capitalize and win a race this year? Let’s hope it is at Spa to mix it up a little bit.

Summer break also brought news of Manor racing demoting one of their drivers, Indonesian Rio Haryanto in favour of French DTM and F1 test driver Esteban Ocon, a moved caused by Haryanto’s inability to pay the 6.5 million pounds required to keep his seat. This in turn has lost Pertamina as Manor sponsor.

One of the best f1 weekends is just around the corner but the shadow of terrorism is upon it and the race organizers have made sure security takes centre stage. This is not really comforting for fans but it’s the new 2016 reality.

What are your predictions?
 
I would make an assumption that there is a limit, otherwise, why not bring 12 new complete engines, and be set for the rest of the season?

I had that idea as well, but, on another thread I think, someone said they have to run the engine for it to count as a change.

So new engine Friday, new engine Saturday, then the car is in parceferme. 2 engines is the max they could do unless they can change engines between p1 and p2, and p3 and qually. but that is surely impossible.
 
I'd prefer it if they could only change an engine when it's properly broken. Add / change performance components all you like; but race the engine 'til it goes bang.
 
From Formula1.com:

  • Each driver is permitted to use only five of each of the above six elements during a championship season and any combination of them may be fitted to a car at any one time. Should a driver use more than five of any of the six power unit elements during the course of a season, a grid penalty will be imposed.

  • The penalties imposed for using additional elements work thus: the first time a sixth of any of the elements is used, a ten-place grid penalty will be imposed. A five-place grid penalty will then be imposed the first time a sixth of any of the remaining elements is used. Likewise, the first time a seventh of any of the elements is used, a ten-place grid penalty will be imposed, and so on.

Power unit and ERS

Clear as mud then. If they take two engines in one race and use them both does this mean a 20 place grid penalty? I suppose it does.
 
Goody - means we should be in for an entertaining race (unless he gets "Grosjean-ed" at the start). Will the FIA be employing the new "wet start" rules if it rains on race day?
 
Mercedes would be daft to take only a 10 spot penalty. Why put him in the middle of the pack?

Put him at the back and bank some components.

What a ridiculous situation this is anyway...
 
We have gone from one extreme to the other. Back in the old turbo days they would have a qualie engine which would then have to be replaced for the race and they would change the engine after each race (usually as they had gone pop). I recall an interview with Max Mosley where he claimed that Lotus ran a "qualifying car" which didn't even have radiators.

The FIA were right to try and stop the similar excesses in this turbo era but it has gone too far when a small number of mechanical failures can cock up the whole championship race. Why not one engine and gearbox for each race? If it goes "kablamo" in one of the sessions you then get to sit on the pit wall and watch for the rest of the weekend. Or, as there are 22 races, you get 11 engines and gearboxes and you have to make each last two races? If you take more components then you are immediately relegated to the back of the grid.

BTW - do they still have the rules about gearbox ratios being fixed for the whole season or is that my age playing tricks on me?
 
I'd prefer it if they could only change an engine when it's properly broken. Add / change performance components all you like; but race the engine 'til it goes bang.

May be some safety issues. In some case going bang means it stops working. In other cases - car catches fire, and in yet other cases smoke and oil everywhere causing other drivers to crash out because of oil on track.
 
Mercedes would be daft to take only a 10 spot penalty. Why put him in the middle of the pack?

Put him at the back and bank some components.

What a ridiculous situation this is anyway...

I hope they do a double penalty to build a pool of components, and don't just do a single set for 20 places. Also hope it rains.
 
Might be a wet Qually

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Mercedes would be daft to take only a 10 spot penalty. Why put him in the middle of the pack?

Since they have to at least take a sixth MGU-H and Turbo they are talking 15 places at least. They would certainly be daft if they only the 15 and not go for a double set. (Even if they would want to introduce upgrades later, this would give them a fresh pool of (friday) practice components.)
 
The Pit Pass statement from Hamilton :
They will change the turbo charger and MGU-H in FP1 which is a 15 place drop, and they may change a further turbo charger and MGU - H on Saturday which would move him to the back of the grid.
 
Titch ..... Autosport say on their site that changing the MGU-H and the turbo each bring a 10 point grid penalty totalling a twenty grid drop which will move him to the back of the field or near to it.
 
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