Grand Prix 2012 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Doesn't time fly! The summer break is approaching the end and after an astonishing Olympics which gripped a nation, the attention now turns across the Channel to see if another Brit can continue his push for glory. Victory in Hungary saw Lewis Hamilton reignite his stuttering season and closed (however small) the gap to Alonso to just over 40 points. The update package introduced in Germany have thrown McLaren back to the front again and just in time as any longer and Hamilton would have been out of the title battle just like his team-mate has been after a nightmare summer for Button. Hamilton has generally gone well at Spa with 1 win, a third place and a fourth. Although depending on your viewpoint it should be 2 wins and a fourth after the 2008 mess.

Although the true king of Spa has returned to the throne in the Lotus and with wins in 2004,2005,2007 and 2009 (close to winning in 2008 as well) not many would bet against the Iceman taking his first victory of the season at his favourite track. The Lotus has been in good form in recent races and a second and third in Hungary proved that where they pushed Hamilton from lights to flag but couldn't quite get past the McLaren driver.

Belgium is famous for it's 4 seasons in a hour in all different parts of the track weather and no doubt if rain is about that plays into the hands of the Championship leader Alonso as the Ferrari is the quickest car in the wet but possibly only the 4th quickest car in the dry, that was evident at Hungary anyway, whether that translates to Spa it is unknown, however Ferrari have traditionally been quick at Spa having won more times there (16) than anyone else so they/Alonso will be in the mix on race day, well let's face it, Massa won't be.

The big unknown here is Red Bull, having had to make several changes to their car to stop make sure it is legal and it has affected performance in recent races and they weren't in the hunt in Hungary. Indeed, Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel is on the longest winless streak since he joined Red Bull in 2009 having not won since Bahrain in April and the young German is currently a few points behind Mark Webber who has had somewhat of a resurgance this year having won at Monaco and Silverstone to become the leading chase driver in the Championship behind Alonso. No doubt Red Bull will be keen to avoid the infighting that nearly cost them the 2010 Championship and to ensure that they don't fall foul of any more FIA regulations as any more problems could see them slip behind Hamilton and possibly even Raikkonen.

Raikkonen is viewed by many as the dark horse for the Championship. He's only a few points behind Hamilton despite having yet to win a race this season which is a testament to his consistency, something which so nearly got him the 2003 title despite only winning one race all year (Malaysia). He's closed down bigger gaps in the past (2007) so he could play a major part in the Championship and if he doesn't ultimately end up in the mix at the end of the season, he'll certainly play a part in terms of taking points off other drivers as he will want to be in contention for podiums and wins as the first win has eluded him so far. He's certainly having a very successful comeback so far and has shown that the 2 years he's had out hasn't affected him whatsoever.

For Galahad 's circuit write up - http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
What a disastrous result for the prospects of a competitive championship.

It's good to see that Button seems to have his mojo back, but when will Hamilton get a run of good luck this season? McLaren thought that there would be very little between the wings, and that the old one would be marginally faster in qualifying...

And lets not forget that it's isn't just Hamilton, Vettel and Webber won't be challenging Alonso either...
 
Interestingly Maldonado's penalty puts him immediately in front of Hamilton on the grid. With the usual compression of the field at the start it could make for an interesting situation. Does Hamilton watch Maldonado and go the opposite way or does he just ignore him and do his own thing?
 
It is fairly uncommon at Spa for the entire pack to drive through the first corner after the start without anyone shedding bits of bodywork or the occasional front-wing.
The run-up to La Source should be... interesting tomorrow, what with Hamilton now starting alongside his best pal...8-)
 
I listened to all the garbage about Lewis being screwed by the team but I also listened closely to what Lewis said after qualifying and already knew without the benefit of the article that Brogan supplied that it was his own choice to use the old wing and not the teams....
 
I must admit I was a bit concerned about Pastor starting behind Jenson but thankfully that threat has been removed due to his grid penalty but unfortunately it puts him right in Hamilton's path.

I'm not sure how Kobayashi is going to deal with being on the front row but lets hope he doesn't get carried away...
 
Interestingly Maldonado's penalty puts him immediately in front of Hamilton on the grid. With the usual compression of the field at the start it could make for an interesting situation. Does Hamilton watch Maldonado and go the opposite way or does he just ignore him and do his own thing?
Ignore him and do his own thing the mood he's in.He's gonna go H.A.M according to one of his tweets.
Mephistopheles as Sushifiesta pointed out, hamilton was advised there would be little difference between the wings and the old one would be faster in quali. He made his decision on that information.
 
I'm sure the team gave him the advice as they saw it and didn't do it to purposely handicap his race weekend, what would be the sense in doing that...?

In fact it was Jenson who had some kind of rear wing problem that needed fixing during qualifying.

The team only had a limited amount of data and so it became a toss of a coin on set up and unfortunately for Lewis it didn't go in his favour, these things happen there is no point in trying to find someone to blame, the same thing seems to have happened at Williams and RedBull.

You never know his car may work much better on full tanks and race a lot better than it qualified......
 
Button moves on to 8 poles putting him level with Riccardo Patrese and fellow Honda alumnus John Surtees.

Of this year's drivers Michael Schumacher (68), Sebastian Vettel (33 = Clark = Prost), Fernando Alonso & Lewis Hamilton (22 each), Kimi Raikkonen (16 = Moss), Felipe Massa (15) and Mark Webber (10 = Rindt) have more.
 
Personally I think Lewis Hamilton has a pattern of ending up in bad situations. The guy is like an Alesi or a Montoya. He's fast, but he doesn't have the discipline to compete at the front. He panics and reacts to short term problems, and in the end this prevents his ability to win.

I am now supporting Raikonnen for the championship rather than that foolish boy from my home county.
 
Well, I wasn't expecting that. Would be fantastic to see Sauber win a race in their own right, on pure performance. Get rid of Friday practice permanently!

If McLaren could pack it in completely that would be great too. This Hamilton Button Whitmarsh crap has gone way beyond tedious through irritating to a whole new level of infuriating.
 
Am I choosing to engage my selective memory? 3 place grid drop, that's fairly unusual right? What happened to 5?

On another note, Hamilton didn't deny he was involved in the decision, he's pissed off that he was given what transpired to be crap information whatever the driver. But that's McLaren all over so his surprise at this baffles me.

Alonso has been fairly lucky given normally qualifying that far back would be punished yet his closest 3 are behind him still.

Grid + track should make for a very interesting race!
 
Well, I wasn't expecting that. Would be fantastic to see Sauber win a race in their own right, on pure performance. Get rid of Friday practice permanently!

If McLaren could pack it in completely that would be great too. This Hamilton Button Whitmarsh crap has gone way beyond tedious through irritating to a whole new level of infuriating.

AMEN!
 
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