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bogaTYR said:
Can you not remember 2006? What a great day that was!
bogaTYR said:
Yeah, I was wondering because I was convinced that was 2007...
Alonso has been trying to pull that trick off again if Piquet disobeys team orders but has been unable to do so since Flav seems to have a "CRASH" button on the pit wall and because Piquet hasn't been seen near Q3 when Q2 is dry!
Well let's all pray for rain because if it stays dry then it's going to be a prelude to Valencia.
Between them they are 2 of the 4 worst tracks for overtaking in the dry
Source: F1 Overtaking Statistics & Analysis
Between them they are 2 of the 4 worst tracks for overtaking in the dry
Source: F1 Overtaking Statistics & Analysis
Brogan said:Well let's all pray for rain because if it stays dry then it's going to be a prelude to Valencia.
Between them they are 2 of the 4 worst tracks for overtaking in the dry
Source: F1 Overtaking Statistics & Analysis
Why doesn't it surprise me that the other two were Catalunya and [colour=#333333:e8clf8b8]Monte Carlo[/colour:e8clf8b8].
Bring Back Montreal! Please! Please! Bring Back Montreal!
7 weeks 'till Spa, though I might miss it because I'm in Belgium. (A different part of Belgium, obviously!)
Wasn't sure whether this warranted a new thread or not but F1-Live is reporting that the fee to host the GP went up from 12 million euros in 2008 to 15.5 million euros this year.
And the Hungarian government only agreed to pay the increased fee 2 weeks ago...
Hungary GP race fee increases - report
If that's true then that's a rise of 29% in 1 year
How exactly does this fit in with the FIA's current cost-cutting program and more importantly, how can CVC and Bernie justify this?
And the Hungarian government only agreed to pay the increased fee 2 weeks ago...
Hungary GP race fee increases - report
If that's true then that's a rise of 29% in 1 year
How exactly does this fit in with the FIA's current cost-cutting program and more importantly, how can CVC and Bernie justify this?
It's simple Bro, The costs aren't incurred by the FIA, The Teams or Bernie/CVC but by Tracks, Governments and the fans. The cost to host a GP can rise as much as CVC want it too. There will always be those countries willing to host a race and always be those people willing to watch it on TV.
Cost cutting is only relevent if it's the costs of a multi million pound multi national car company. If it's the average F1 punter who pays for a ticket it dosn't matter. Why worry about 30,000 empty seats at a track when you have a global audience of 1 or 2 hundred million to sell your stuff too.
Simple economics.
Yes, I know it's only P1 and times don't mean anything....but McLaren 1st and 3rd?
When was the last time we saw that this season?
Jaime just over 2 10ths behind Seb B.
Not bad for his first outing.
When was the last time we saw that this season?
Jaime just over 2 10ths behind Seb B.
Not bad for his first outing.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:22.278 21
2. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:22.337 + 0.059 27
3. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:22.554 + 0.276 20
4. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:22.615 + 0.337 21
5. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:22.619 + 0.341 25
6. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:22.705 + 0.427 17
7. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:22.796 + 0.518 23
8. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:22.855 + 0.577 25
9. Alonso Renault (B) 1:23.001 + 0.723 28
10. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:23.130 + 0.852 25
11. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:23.146 + 0.868 24
12. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:23.154 + 0.876 23
13. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:23.209 + 0.931 24
14. Glock Toyota (B) 1:23.234 + 0.956 30
15. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:23.283 + 1.005 25
16. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:23.484 + 1.206 20
17. Piquet Renault (B) 1:23.678 + 1.400 22
18. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:23.845 + 1.567 18
19. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:23.998 + 1.720 37
20. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:24.228 + 1.950 42
Looking at the number of laps by Jamie Unspellable and Buemi they have done almost as twice as much as everyone else so I don't think ultimate speed was the goal here but testing new parts and getting Jamie used to the car/track.
Yeah, In at the deep end.
It won't be until the race that we get a good idea about what we are in for during the rest of the season. Could be a new star or could be a mobile chicane you never can tell.
You must have to have a great deal of confidence in your own ability to go from a few straight line runs into competing in the highest level of motorsport in the world.
I really want to see if the Force India's can move up a notch again. This track should be a bit of a leveller and I think they have a pretty good package now and should be mixing it with the BMWs, Renaults and Toyota's.
Hope last week wasn't a flash in the pan.
It won't be until the race that we get a good idea about what we are in for during the rest of the season. Could be a new star or could be a mobile chicane you never can tell.
You must have to have a great deal of confidence in your own ability to go from a few straight line runs into competing in the highest level of motorsport in the world.
I really want to see if the Force India's can move up a notch again. This track should be a bit of a leveller and I think they have a pretty good package now and should be mixing it with the BMWs, Renaults and Toyota's.
Hope last week wasn't a flash in the pan.
Yes, I know it's only P2 and times don't mean anything....but McLaren 1st and 2nd?
When was the last time we saw that this season?
Jaime just under 8 10ths behind Seb B.
Not great for his second outing.
When was the last time we saw that this season?
Jaime just under 8 10ths behind Seb B.
Not great for his second outing.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:22.079 36
2. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:22.126 + 0.047 36
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:22.154 + 0.075 47
4. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:22.369 + 0.290 29
5. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:22.426 + 0.347 40
6. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:22.550 + 0.471 30
7. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:22.641 + 0.562 38
8. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:22.663 + 0.584 28
9. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:22.690 + 0.611 43
10. Glock Toyota (B) 1:22.751 + 0.672 45
11. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:22.763 + 0.684 38
12. Alonso Renault (B) 1:22.793 + 0.714 37
13. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:22.806 + 0.727 42
14. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:22.870 + 0.791 36
15. Piquet Renault (B) 1:22.927 + 0.848 36
16. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:22.978 + 0.899 28
17. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:23.029 + 0.950 39
18. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:23.156 + 1.077 32
19. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:23.176 + 1.097 45
20. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:23.942 + 1.863 40
Intersting to see that the Williams cars also remain near the top of the time sheets as does Webber.
Again we can't read too much into this because we've seen it all before on a Friday but Mclaren must be pleased with how it's going so far.
As for Jaime Unspellable, again it's early doors but will we be asking ourselves come sunday evening weather it was worth it to give Bourdais his marching orders. I wonder if Renault are taking note after the speculation surrounding PKs future.
Again we can't read too much into this because we've seen it all before on a Friday but Mclaren must be pleased with how it's going so far.
As for Jaime Unspellable, again it's early doors but will we be asking ourselves come sunday evening weather it was worth it to give Bourdais his marching orders. I wonder if Renault are taking note after the speculation surrounding PKs future.
It is starting to look pretty good for McLaren - I suppose they've gone very well at the Hungaroring...
[td]Year[/td][td]Pole[/td][td]Winner[/td]
So McLaren have won 3 of the last 4 races at the Hungaroring, and got 3 of the last 4 poles. In 2006 they were on track until Raikkonen hit Liuzzi (although Massa should have won 2008).
Even if we consider Schuonso's time deductions in 2006, Kimi still beat a Ferrari to pole!
| 2005 | M Schumacher | Raikkonen |
| 2006 | Raikkonen | Button |
| 2007 | Hamilton | Hamilton |
| 2008 | Hamilton | Kovalainen |
So McLaren have won 3 of the last 4 races at the Hungaroring, and got 3 of the last 4 poles. In 2006 they were on track until Raikkonen hit Liuzzi (although Massa should have won 2008).
Even if we consider Schuonso's time deductions in 2006, Kimi still beat a Ferrari to pole!
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the macca's seem to be on their usual quick dashes again. anyone any idea what the longest stint was they did? would be surprised if it was more then 3 or 4 laps.
clearly in qualifying mode. but i have the feeling they are seriously low on fuel and will try their usual strategy of racing away in the first stint.
clearly in qualifying mode. but i have the feeling they are seriously low on fuel and will try their usual strategy of racing away in the first stint.
Yes, I know it's only P3 and times don't mean anything....but McLaren 1st and 4th?
When was the last time we saw that this season?
Jaime just under 6 10ths behind Seb B.
Not bad for his third outing.
When was the last time we saw that this season?
Jaime just under 6 10ths behind Seb B.
Not bad for his third outing.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.009 19
2. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:21.408 + 0.399 23
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.509 + 0.500 21
4. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.655 + 0.646 20
5. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.800 + 0.791 23
6. Glock Toyota (B) 1:21.849 + 0.840 12
7. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:21.911 + 0.902 19
8. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.935 + 0.926 19
9. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:21.936 + 0.927 16
10. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:21.971 + 0.962 21
11. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:22.076 + 1.067 20
12. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:22.097 + 1.088 25
13. Barrichello Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) 1:22.101 + 1.092 22
14. Piquet Renault (B) 1:22.210 + 1.201 17
15. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:22.270 + 1.261 20
16. Alonso Renault (B) 1:22.274 + 1.265 19
17. Button Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) 1:22.312 + 1.303 22
18. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:22.391 + 1.382 20
19. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:22.684 + 1.675 23
20. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:23.231 + 2.222 16
Also a shout out for the Williams team who have been consistantly near the top of the time sheets all weekend.
I think this session is the least reflective of current performance levels of the three sessions so far though. I'm not sure what set ups the teams were working on but Buemi 6th and Button at the back?
I think this session is the least reflective of current performance levels of the three sessions so far though. I'm not sure what set ups the teams were working on but Buemi 6th and Button at the back?
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