Poll Should Michael Masi resign?

Should Michael Masi resign?


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cider_and_toast

Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex
Staff Member
Premium Contributor
Yeah. He's clearly not up to the job.

Having said that, he won't resign as that would be an admission that what he did was wrong.

I wouldn't be shocked if the new FIA president will also publicly support him for the same reason.

The FIA operates on the following rules structure:

1) The FIA are never wrong
2) If you believe the FIA are wrong, see rule 1.
 

Hamberg

Those who know, they know
Contributor
Would this change things though (from the BBC article Il_leone shared)?

“This week… the organisation will announce the appointment of Peter Bayer, its secretary general for motorsport, to a newly established position of executive director of F1. In this, he will oversee Masi, Tombazis and technical director Jo Bauer, among other staff.
Being race director was part of Whiting's responsibilities, and as a result people have incorrectly assumed that Masi is his replacement. He's not.”
 

The Pits

Harumph. Again.
Valued Member
I think that Masi was put in to a position that he was not equipped to handle. Add in the pressure of having to deal with the team principles directly, and you have an exceedingly difficult environment for anyone, however good, to operate in. The fact that he bowed to the pressure is the issue here.

Does he deserve to be sacked? well, I have made a few monumental **** ups in my career, and have not been fired, so I am going to say no. But should he be allowed to do the same job? absolutely not. Whoever put him where he is, and allowed the team principles to talk directly to him should probably be fired.
 

F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
ive got say im 50/50. id completely understand if he was sacked & masi couldnt have any complaints. but there was no malice in what he did. but i think the pressure got to him. he panicked he wasnt thinking clearly, he got potential abuse of if the race finished under the safety car. he got potential abuse of cars in between title rivals. but he didnt have time to get everyone round. now thinking about it its obvious the Red flag shouldve fallen to give him thinking time

that is a symptom of he was supposed to be the understudy to Charlie Whiting for years but that tragic event meant he thrust into the limelight & you cant buy experience & like i ask everytime a football manager is on the brink who do we bring into replace him. would masi be better in 2022 knowing what he knows now
 
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sobriety

Race Winner
This isn't so much a failure of one man, but a structural and governence issue within the FiA, with an added dose of conflict of interest between "the show" and "the rules".

The trouble is, just like UEFA/FiFA, nothing will change, he'll likely be sacked/stand down as a scapegoat and the same incompetent/corrupt merry-go-round will continue.
 

The Artist.....

Champion Elect
Whilst I agree that Masi has been problematic (at best) over the course of the season, the problems are structural, rather than personnel based.
  1. The team bosses have too much power. They should not be able to speak to Masi. He should be able to call them, they should not be able to call him.
  2. Similarly, the team bosses should not be able to speak to stewards (and certainly shouldn't go down and talk to stewards, or try to pressure stewards, during the race, or whilst decisions are being made). This should lead to an immediate fine (of the individual), and a ban from the paddock for 60 days.
  3. The regulations need re-writing. Farces like the safety car farce are a direct result of the regulations.
    1. There needs to be some recognition about whether the desire is for races to finish under green flag conditions (or not). If the desire is to finish under green flag conditions, rather than calling out a safety car in the last 5 laps, a red flag could be called.
    2. Alternatively, similar rules to those historically used in touring cars could be implemented so that laps under the safety car are added at the end of the race (up to a maximum of, say, 5). Teams are required to carry sufficient fuel to cover any safety car period, but fuel used on the 5 safety car laps will not count towards the fuel consumption for the race)
    3. Rather than allow lapped cars to pass, they should be moved to the back of the train by driving through the pitlane. This would have the benefit of having drivers (on the lead lap) in their position order, without spending 3 laps waiting for first the cars to all pass, then to get past the safety car line, and then the extra lap.
 

vintly

Mostly bacon
Contributor
The Artist..... A 60 day ban sounds a tad harsh to me but essentially I think you've nailed it.

PS I don't think Masi should resign but wouldn't be surprised if he did.
 
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Il_leone

World Champion

If it was the first cock up then there maybe sympathy but there has too many and he essentially staged a finish like a sudden death shoot out when only one driver benefits

I am surprised whoever was 4th did not complain why he was not allowed to catch up to Sainz!
 

Il_leone

World Champion
Would this change things though (from the BBC article Il_leone shared)?

“This week… the organisation will announce the appointment of Peter Bayer, its secretary general for motorsport, to a newly established position of executive director of F1. In this, he will oversee Masi, Tombazis and technical director Jo Bauer, among other staff.
Being race director was part of Whiting's responsibilities, and as a result people have incorrectly assumed that Masi is his replacement. He's not.”
Nope because the new president wants a fresh start

I am hearing Ross Brawn is going and so is Pat Symonds because he is retiring. Masi is waiting for a pay off I presume rather than resigning as he gets nothing
Because 4th and 5th were Tsunoda and Gasly
More Red Bull collusion
 

Dartman

Pole Sitter
The status of lapped cars is a conundrum if you allow them to unlap then they gain an advantage, especially in the case of an out of position car losing time due to puncture or no fault collision as they are suddenly promoted to a few seconds behind the race leader, should they be moved to the rear of the pack then possibly the also rans that haven't been lapped are now in danger of losing places to quick cars that have been lapped for for various in pit reasons, where if no safety car their position would not have improved though the gap may have closed.
The real problem is the safety car, an American import designed for oval circuits, the virtual safety car is the way to go with various speed percentages, given the now large run off areas a VSC circuit could be introduced to avoid the incident area, though this may be a problem for some street circuits but not unsurmountable. There is considerable amount of electronics and software that can be employed to overcome the safety car requirement and keep everyone safe.
The race director should be in a soundproof box that can only transmit instructions but able to consult the stewards, stewards can only judge on whether a rule has been broken, not interpret the rules. i.e an undertake must be completed without forcing the overtaken car to take to the curb, similarly an outside overtake must be allowed without the overtaken car leaving less than half a cars width of track limits, any collisions the are judged on the car positions at the first instant of the collision, the overtaking car must have attained an overlap of at least a half cars length before either of the cars turn in to claim the corner .
Masi has placed himself in an untenable position having lost the confidence of a majority of drivers and team principals at various stages of season, would suggest he claims ill health and retires gracefully
 

F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
Rather than allow lapped cars to pass, they should be moved to the back of the train by driving through the pitlane. This would have the benefit of having drivers (on the lead lap) in their position order, without spending 3 laps waiting for first the cars to all pass, then to get past the safety car line, and then the extra lap.
this has been Brundles biggest issue i remember at imola this year. but apparently they cant just do computer magic & add a lap. they have physically do the lap

Because 4th and 5th were Tsunoda and Gasly
4th was bottas at the restart. until bottas carried being useless right to bitter end
 
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