Jenson Button

Arguably the best ever driver in mixed conditions, all his wins at Mclaren have come in those conditions. His last race win in the dry came at the 2009 Turkish GP.

Button is known for his smooth driving style and is normally seen in must races doing one less stop than his rivals for tyres.

Buttons also know to be a bit of a practical joker and will take part in anything fun.

Since his debut in 2000 Button has won the majority of hearts in this country. But what is your favourite JB win?

Mine has to be Hungaroring 2006, in argubly a midfield team and he won the race in those mixed conditions to take his first win. I can remember James Allen been in tears almost and that was the first race Anthony Davidson ever commentated on.
 
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Button has to prove himself this season. I think he swans around in the mid field, when he has way more talent than that. If he hasn't got any more talent than that, then he should quit.
 
He's a good driver and with the right car he can perform but otherwise he's just average. He's not a bad driver, just reliable and dependable. Might not be a good thing but I don't think he has the magic to take an average car to a race winner.
 
F1Yorkshire I thought Jenson put that 'only good with a good car' thing to bed last year. He had some very impressive drives in a shopping trolley of a Mclaren which bad luck stopped him getting the results to back it up.

Was in Bahrain where, but for a bodged pitstop, he'd have been on the tail of the Mercs pushing their fuel starved butts for a podium? That was like race 4 of the season and we know how bad that Mclaren was at the start.

You are never going to see Jenson power sliding cars round the track and I think that means people under estimate how much he brings to the car. I have to say I used to hold the same opinion but since the Brawn/Mclaren days I've had to rethink as Jenson keeps proving himself. He might not be the best but he's certainly up there with em and if you give him a car that can compeate he'll dam well compeate. A rung above the DC's and Webbers if this world but not quite at the heights of the Schumacher/Vettels. I'd certainly throw him in with the Mansell/Hakkenien catogry.

Talking of dragging average cars to good results - The Brawn in the second half of the year? 95% of drivers out there would have lost that title.
 
Brogan said:
Well it does matter as total points scored over x period is not something that is factored into the WDC, nor WCC, as I'm sure you're aware.
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I thought that was exactly how the WDC Was determined!!! You can compare drivers by many metrics, in some, Hamilton was ahead, in others button was ahead! Considering how many people claimed that Button would be "humiliated" I think that any ways Button was ahead could be seen as a victory- not necessarily against Hamilton, but rather against his constant army of naysayers.
 
Season on season The Artist..... Not over three seasons.

This entire discussion is around if Magnusson beats Button what then for Button. Just because people may be critical or offer an opinion other than 'Jenson is the almighty and best driver there ever was' does not automatically mean they hate him and by default are Hamilton fans (this is to you Mephistopheles), in fact I think a fair few people that have commented, aren't.

What happened to Alonso when he was beaten by a team mate? Took a step down to Renault.

What happened to Hamilton when he was beaten by a team mate? Took what was viewed at the time as a step down to Mercedes (still may well be in the long term)

However, these two did have age on their side and still haven't won another WDC. I'm sorry but in F1 terms 34 is getting on a bit so his job is that bit harder.

This is a perfectly reasonable discussion after a perfectly reasonable article by an Ex F1 driver turned pundit.
 
Ok then, by the same logic, this season is critical for Hamilton, as if he gets beaten by his teammate he may be better off retiring...

The same can be said of Vettel!!!

Why DC came out and said this at the beginning of the season is baffling- much as like when Mansell came out criticising Hamilton- but as ever there are people who jump on comments like this for one reason or another!
 
Absolutely correct. I'm guessing it's because there is talk that Magnusson is the next Hamilton (including from himself) in terms of having an astonishing first season.

It's silly season, its speculation. But it's also impossible to raise the topic of Magnusson being the next big thing without also considering if he is, where does that leave Button. Retiring is too drastic mind.

Anyway, as TBY said, isn't this talk good for Button? He overheard his Dad say he'll never make it. He did. People said he's not WDC material, he got one of those. He'll never ever beat Hamilton in the same car - oh hello 2011!
 
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Hamberg said:
Anyway, as TBY said, isn't this talk good for Button? He overheard his Dad say he'll never make it. He did. People said he's not WDC material, he got one of those. He'll never ever beat Hamilton in the same car - oh hello 2011!
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I don't remember saying this, although I do thoroughly agree with it!

I do not know what the problem is with Coulthard's comments, aside from their total lack of saying anything, as The Artist..... eloquently pointed out. I have to admit I picked KMag in Team Mate Prediction this year for a couple of reasons*, but there are scarcely any tougher challenges.

It is quite frequent to forget how good some drivers are when not in a top car. I believe Heidfeld never got his chance, and it seems that such drivers as Nico Rosberg and Jenson Button were excessively underrated when they did not get the machinery that they required to win races. A young child whose four great-grandfathers were Fangio, Clark, Prost and Stewart wouldn't have had a chance in that Honda of 2008-09, but that is irrelevant, it was 2004 and 2006 that had already shown Button's quality, and 2009-13 have confirmed that.

He is likely in that little bracket - with Rosberg and probably Grosjean too, who're a small amount behind a non-crisis Hamilton. Button will be judged against Magnussen (of course he will), and he will to some extent also be judged by how good McLaren is.

Jenson Button scored 14 out of 19 points finishes last year. Only the Red Bulls, Mercedes and Ferraris did better. He was as likely to finish somewhere in the points as a Lotus. He outperformed his car. He was, yet again, a slightly slower qualifier, an outstanding racer and a consistent performer. Alonso and Raikkonen weren't criticised for that combination, but of the three, who do you think would be the best to work with?

I'm afraid that if, at this point, you cannot see that he is a truly fantastic racing driver, well, you ought to be telling your race engineer: "I've got no grip at all, guys!"

*Firstly, McLaren don't just hire rookies, and second qualifying is weighted highly and thus it just needs a couple of engine blow-outs.
 
the ages of the world champions in the last 10 years

2004 Schumacher 35 yrs old
2005 - Alonso 24 yrs old
2006 - Alonso 25 yrs old
2007 - Raikkonen - 27 yrs old
2008 - Hamilton - 23 yrs old
2009 - Button - 29 years old
2010- 2013 Vettel - 23- 26 years old

previously in 90's

age of world champions

1990-1991 Senna 30-31 yrs
1992 - Mansell 39yrs
1993 - Prost 38 years
1994-1995 Schumacher 25-26 yrs
1996 - Hill - 36 years old
1997 Villeneuve 27 years old
1998- 99 Hakkinen 30-31 years old

just to show that it is getting increasingly difficult for guys nearer 35 years old to be world champions now
 
In my opinion Jenson isn't one of the best drivers today, his quality is the relationship with the tyres, he's really good to preserve them. But this is not enough, this year Kevin will do better than him!
 
We'll put all those records he set in karting down to his tyre preservation shall we? :)

I disagree with you on the JB point nenoste95 but welcome to CTA.

You could very well be right about K-Mag beating him but JB was mixing it with the best as far back as 2004 before and despite his knockers continues too when the equiptment allows so I have to say to me that makes him one of the best.
 
To be honest how well Jenson does this year will be down to how he is coping with the loss of his father who after all had been with him and supporting him throughout his career, racing without him could be the decider for his future not K-Mag.
 
Il_leone said:
the ages of the world champions in the last 10 years

2004 Schumacher 35 yrs old
2005 - Alonso 24 yrs old
2006 - Alonso 25 yrs old
2007 - Raikkonen - 27 yrs old
2008 - Hamilton - 23 yrs old
2009 - Button - 29 years old
2010- 2013 Vettel - 23- 26 years old

previously in 90's

age of world champions

1990-1991 Senna 30-31 yrs
1992 - Mansell 39yrs
1993 - Prost 38 years
1994-1995 Schumacher 25-26 yrs
1996 - Hill - 36 years old
1997 Villeneuve 27 years old
1998- 99 Hakkinen 30-31 years old

just to show that it is getting increasingly difficult for guys nearer 35 years old to be world champions now
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It is not becoming more difficult than it was. It is just that a driver like Senna at his time was considered to be young when he won. These days the drivers join at an age were a driver like Senna or Mansell were still racing in junior categories.
Furthermore we still have plenty of top drivers who are in their 30's in the best teams don't we. Alonso, Raikkonen, Button. Last year Webber.
 
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True. Had it not been for Vettel a driver late 20s early 30s were right there.

That said, there are going to be more Vettel's, not less.
 
RasputinLives....I guess that Rosberg again will be right behind, and following Lewis this time into retirement, as being only 6 months younger.....:D
 

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