Current Fernando Alonso

Suprised there's no thread (although I had one for his blogs), so i'll start off:

A double world championship vs Raikkonen and then Schumacher in 2005 and 2006 respectively elevated Alonso's status but, apparently, no one told his rookie teammate at his brand new team of a theoretical 'pecking order' the following season ... and the Spaniard was 'seen off' by the young Englishman, Hamilton, into two years of Wilderness while both Hamilton and an even younger Vettel began to make their mark through '08 and '09.

Arguably, Alonso was in the Top 3 of all the Formula One 'Aces' in the 2000s following Hakkinen's retirement - up there with either Schumacher/Raikkonen and, then, Raikkonen/Hamilton - and remains so in the early 2010s along with Hamilton/Vettel...with only Kubica knocking on the door until the Pole's horrible Rallying accident.

A question mark initially over 2004 during which Trulli lead him in the standing until the Italian fell out with ex-manager and team boss Flavio Briatore (Alonso's then business manager) under dubious circumstances after the French Grand Prix.

Another question mark is...Who has progressed more since the end of 2007: Hamilton or Alonso?

A fan. Then came the unfortunate blackmail allegations against McLaren boss Ron Dennis on the morning of the 2007 Hungarian GP which came to light at the highly costly FIA 'Spy-Gate' hearings before Spa...followed by the odour of the deliberate crashing of the Number 2 Renault car at Singapore in 2008 which lead to Alonso finishing 1st in the event and ended in the banning of Briatore and Pat Symmonds a year later.

2009 was a poor year with 'Nando's' mind likely on the prospect of Santander paving the way to better prospects at Maranello one year earlier.

2010 was a fresh start at Ferrari (who no longer had Schumacher walking through the premises regularly) but first half season mistakes ultimately cost him a title inspite of being infamously aided by a Team Orders switch w Massa at Hockenheim (which lead to more world-wide criticism).

Relatively fast, relatively consistent but prone to mistakes and a possible insecurity complex (*) based on wanting sole focus from a team and being only happy with a Number 2 in the other car running behind him. Anything else and it seemingly rattles him.

(*) This is my own personal opinion.

..and so to 2011...

He's underperformed only at Malaysia (hit Hamilton) and China (invisible while Massa challenged McLarens and Red Bulls) and, arguably, Canada...but has maximized his chances in the other 6 races culminating in the British GP win.

He said in his post-Monaco blog that 'Silverstone would be the WDC cut-off'...and so, after some major upgrades, the Ferrari looks a winner again. It might be too late for 2011 given Vettel's finishing rate...but the 2012 regs means they should keep the hammer down at Maranello.

He's signed on through to 2016...So hopes are high of a WDC at some juncture...but not yet.
 
I can't believe for one second that the stewards would have let him run around like that for three or four more laps. If he hadn't have been shown the meatball flag halfway around that lap then you would have to wonder who was watching what.
 
Heh, heh. Well teabagyokel, It's like the weathermenpeep's on Auntie Beeb. They sit in their meteorological mission control looking at the satellite data, relaying the info' to the weatherfrontperson who, on the hour on the telly, tells it's going to snow later in the day. Meanwhile, us thickies look out the window and see that we've been in blizzard conditions for at least an hour.

It's like a techno version of tunnel vision. They can't make a decision without confirmation from their computers. I am firmly of the belief that F1 has been afflicted by a 21st century affliction. As Max Bygraves used to say "Let me tell you a story" ...

There is ample evidence that McLaren were the first to be afflicted when in, a few years after the turn of the 21st Century, somewhere in a place called China, they left one of their drivers to hang out to dry. They thought their computerised mission control has artificial intelligence. Unfortunately they were only half right. Their computers were definitely artificial but they had no intelligence. Had one of their team looked up at the real world they might have noticed four tyres bald to the canvas. The stupid fans and their own driver saw this four or five laps earlier and were driven to apoplexy. The cry "Pit, pit!!" could be heard emanating from sitting rooms all over the planet. By the time one of the team looked up it was tooooooo late. The rest is history and history has a habit of repeating itself.

The moral of my story (he wrote in his most snooty and condescending fashion) is this: If one wants to know what the fuck is going on look out of the window and process what one sees with the mightiest computer on the planet. The human brain! LOL
 
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Just a follow up to my comments regarding Alonso treating other drivers with respect. I don't think there's anything in the incident with Coulthard. I would suggest David outbraked himself.
Regarding the incident with Doornbos, yes it was a little naughty and he did receive a penalty for it. If you investigate a little further there was quite a bit of history around that. Alonso's little swerve was payback aimed at unnerving Doornbos and he got a two second penalty for it. To be honest there was a lot of room on both sides of the track so Alonso judged it to unsettle Doornbos but I don't believe he endangered himself or Doornbos. The penalty wasn't very severe either which indicates the stewards didn't judge it that harshly either. If you search the web at the time the forums ran hot on that one and almost everyone sided with Alonso. British forums too I might add. There was another run-in during the following GP in Turkey, this time Doornbos made contact. He was a non achiever in F1 that decided he was a match for Alonso even though he had rarely driven in a GP, and made a habit of getting in Alonso's way during Qualifying. He'd get a truckload of penalties today.
However I stand by my original comment regarding Alonso. I don't think one relatively minor incident in a 10 year plus career is enough to change my mind regarding his respect for his fellow competitors. There's not a single driver in the sport that doesn't feel safe racing wheel to wheel with him.
 
Kewee ... Alonso is as shrewd as they come behind the wheel of an F1 car... you just have to look at how he and Webber have mixed it up on track the last few seasons... he races hard and fair in my book...

Just about all drivers have done things early in their careers that they most likely wouldn't do now... a little bit of experience tends to adjust the odd temperamental behaviour...
 
Ferrari have confirmed they told Alonso to stay out, he wanted to come in at the end of the first lap. They have also said that their telemetry showed the wing would fail after he had passed the pit entrance about 5 seconds before it actually did (not that anyone with a pair of eyes couldn't see what was going to happen by looking at the car itself).

Yes, a slight contact in difficult conditions, where one driver was pushing to try and make the best of his start, but not his fault that he didn't go into the pits as he was following instructions from his team.
 
Brogan and again other drivers have been slated for ignoring the instructions from the pits. Lets just face it, a driver can't win or do the right thing because people will always find blame in their actions if they want to ;)
 
Alonso's circuit-by-circuit, not including 2001:

CTA.webp
 
I'm fairly sure it was just an accident that could have happened to anybody in those condition and has done, it's not really fair to suggest Alonso was being reckless, but having said that I am completely at a loss as to how Kewee can blame the team for it..:dunno: no truthfully I just dunno.....
 
Mephistopheles.....It was actually FB that said it was totally the teams fault and the team themselves also shouldered the blame. I just agreed, pointing out that Alonso couldn't see his front wing and may have thought he just had a broken end plate. The team should have made the call to bring him in at the end of the first lap. Obviously the team wasn't responsible for the accident but the collapse of his wing at the beginning of the second lap could have been avoided. :disappointed: Can I go back to Korea now? :)
 
So, some uncharacteristically poor driving from Alonso and some uncharacteristically poor decision making from his team - just to tidy this up with a neat summary.
 
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