Poll Does Felipe Massa deserve his 2012 seat at Ferrari?
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IMy gut instinct is that Massa's lap times are closer than Alonso's than Webber's are to Vettel's, in general. At the end of the season I'll do an analysis.
Felipe's points total has been compromised by a number of incidents in races, some his fault, many not.
Felipe's points total has been compromised by a number of incidents in races, some his fault, many not.
Dario Resta
Podium Finisher
I would give Massa another year. The incidents with Lewis, plus the pressure from his team for him to perform and the knowledge that under normal circumstances he has no chance of a shot at the championship in a Ferrari again, have weighed heavily on his shoulders. I don't believe he has a personal problem with Lewis or vice versa, they both have issues they need to sort out before next season. Would Felipe be rejuvenated in a different car though? Probably.
I reckon he'd do well in a Force India..............................
I reckon he'd do well in a Force India..............................
"narcotic news" eh? What ARE you suggesting?
Quick point of order; this thread is about whether Massa deserves to keep his seat for 2012, so any further analysis of the Hamilton/Massa collision from India will be deleted, and all previous posts about the crash have been deleted.
Il_leone
World Champion
I should add that when Massa's had a competitive car on par with Alonso he is able to race against him at least and beat him on occassions like 2006-2007
Massa was leading the team in 2009 when Raikkonen lost interest but am afraid he is a victim of the political madhouse at Ferrari and has no one to fend for him
Yes the Ferrari is definitely the 3rd fastest car and Alonso is making it better than it should be with the podiums he keeps getting but then Massa should be beating both Mercedes more regularly
Massa was leading the team in 2009 when Raikkonen lost interest but am afraid he is a victim of the political madhouse at Ferrari and has no one to fend for him
Yes the Ferrari is definitely the 3rd fastest car and Alonso is making it better than it should be with the podiums he keeps getting but then Massa should be beating both Mercedes more regularly
Il_leone
World Champion
Deserving the seat as to make sure Signor Alonso does not have someone who is fast enough to challenge him...everyone was expecting Kubica to join until it was announced Massa was staying for another two seasons
Do you really think that Montezelomo would allow any driver to dictate to him as to who the other driver could be?
Domenicali re-confirms that Massa will be staying at Ferrari in 2012, but implies that it will be a make-or-break season for him:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95986
He also, quite rightly in my view, emphasises that the team's problems lie more with the car than with the drivers.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95986
He also, quite rightly in my view, emphasises that the team's problems lie more with the car than with the drivers.
Gone and spoilt the thread, hasn't he?
Since when have signed pieces of paper stopped people from speculating in F1 circles. 
Since when have signed pieces of paper stopped people from speculating in F1 circles.
Indeed http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2009/8/9824.html
Illustrates my one real issue with the modern era Ferrari management. When does deception become deceit?
Big difference between those two press reports.
Both of the Massa seat confirmation reports for 2012 are from the team not Massa himself.
In Kimi's case he did have a contract but Ferrari bought him out with a $50m payoff and the stipulation that he did not race for rival team.
Both of the Massa seat confirmation reports for 2012 are from the team not Massa himself.
In Kimi's case he did have a contract but Ferrari bought him out with a $50m payoff and the stipulation that he did not race for rival team.
One might reverse the question and ask whether Ferrari deserve Massa's continuing loyalty and commitment.
I say that to myself every day.
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