Grand Prix 2019 Mexico Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

1st of apologies completely forgot to upload it yesterday. got doing other thing & other concerns it flew out of my head

after a last few races recently not classics but decent. & where Mercedes have made a very good case to be considered the most dominant F1 team in series history. no team has won both titles 6 in a row, not Fangio, Prost/Senna McLaren, Schumacher Ferrari or Vettel Red Bull. which is even more impressive as theyve done it over 2 different rule changes. which has brought many a dominant team to an also-ran. but i feel its a perfect storm alot like Ferrari in early 2000's who for me were more dominant than Ferrari over the 6 constructors , the best driver in the most efficient team

but anyway enough of the events of post Japanese gp & its place in history next time out it will be the final Mexican gp, because next year under the new deal it will become the Mexico city gp & become only the 2nd grand prix named after city rather than a country after abu dhabi. but im delighted about the new deal because I think mexico even so early on would have been a big loss to calendar. because it is a fantastic vibrant city with all the day of the dead festival. Fans love the racing shown by the great atmosphere given by that stadium section & only a support matched by tifosi & british. because you dont need a commentator to tell you if perez has overtaken anyone because the huge crowd roar let people know. the circuit has a bit of everything you've got the 1.2km front straight & long straight between 3 & 4. then flowing section between 7 & 11 then into the stadium section. also the altitude throws a unique factor into it, as mexico at 2,300m is higher than other 20 combined, Altitude has been a issue for Mercedes & very good place for red bull because even in 2016 they only got pole by a few tenths compared to 7 tenths over the season. also since the rule change no Mercedes has been on front row, only bottas in 2017 has been on the podium & Bottas even got lapped last year which is unthinkable for "dominant" Mercedes, which barring reliability the championship will highly likely will carry on til USA

Circuit outside of F1 does have Rich History of Motorsport up there & beating some of the historic circuits from around the world there is rarely global or North American series that hasn't raced here at some point, you have old sportscar series & New WEC, Formula 3.5, Champ Car/CART, NASCAR, Porsche Supercup, A1 GP, Rolex sports car series (US WEC), Formula E & Race of Champions. the stadium section the Foro Sol has played host to some big names in music Madonna, Paul McCartney, Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Coldplay, The Killers, U2, Iron Maiden & Lady Gaga

Circuit is Honoured after the Brothers Ricardo who died in 1962 & later Pedro Rodríguez who was also killed on the track in 1971, 2 very talented drivers who were taken too soon, Ricardo who was the Max Verstappen of the late 50's early 60's, at just 16yrs & 4 months was due to take part in le mans 24 hrs but organisers judged him to too young so was replaced by jose behra brother of teammate jean behra to race alongside pedro, but after allowed to compete but retiring in 59, he would finish 2nd in 1960 at just age of 18. still youngest ever to stand on the podium at le mans, held the record for youngest driver to start a race for 48 years, until Jaime Alguarsari came in for Bourdais mid season. was youngest for 55 yrs to start from the front row until Verstappen Belgium 2016. he is still the youngest F1 driver ever to race for Ferrari at just 19, a year before his tragic death which all start Ferrari opted not to enter the non-Championship Mexican GP so signed to drive Lotus 24, but during the 1st day of practice, approaching the peratalta the Lotus's rear right suspension failed & he hit barrier dying instantly

Pedro who was considered the best driver of his era in the wet, won 2 F1 Races, his 2nd & final F1 victory was in the final Belgian GP on the old circuit in 1970 in a race where only 6 took the chequered flag, but only managed the best of 6th in the championship so it was sportscars where Pedro was more successful came 3rd in 1967 24hrs of daytona, then despite having a terrible reliablity record where he retired from 12 of 14 le mans he entered, he won the 1968 le mans 24 hours in the GT40 & also won the 1970 & 1971 24 hours of Daytona which was to be his final success. because Pedro Rodríguez at age of 31 was driving for the lead was killed in an sports car race at Norisring on July 1971. as a slower car edged him into the wall & upon impact it burst into flames.

but to end it on cheerier note & not the tragic death of 2 very successful drivers. enjoy the race & hope everyone has a good weekend :D :cheers:
 
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F1Brits_90

Race Winner


The Mexican Grand Prix promoter says that the Netflix F1 series Drive to Survive has encouraged a significant surge in 1st time ticket buyers as they noticed they had a 30% increase in interest from women
 

Ruslan

Podium Finisher
Well, I decided to read Verstappen comments on the penalty for entertainment, and it was a perfectly reasonable response that admitted responsibility. Good publicist or the boy is maturing.
 

Angel

Race Winner
Contributor
Max is going to be one to watch after that penalty, even if he did deserve it. It's only going to inspire him to push all the harder I reckon.
 

Il_leone

Champion Elect
Its absolutely sheer arrogance from Max because it might have cost him race victory ... but then again he has a tow now to pull him for an overtake at the start whilst Leclerc might be very robust with his scheming teammate this round .

So the first few corners could be very anxious for Ferrari.

I also think Max deserves a bigger penalty for his deliberate defiance of the rules regarding flags - the guy thinks he is untouchable
 
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Ruslan

Podium Finisher
Its absolutely sheer arrogance from Max because it might have cost him race victory ... but then again he has a tow now to pull him for an overtake at the start whilst Leclerc might be very robust with his scheming teammate this round .

So the first few corners could be very anxious for Ferrari.

I also think Max deserves a bigger penalty for his deliberate defiance of the rules regarding flags - the guy thinks he is untouchable

Well I am on the fence on this one. Certainly his time should have been disallowed, although that would not have changed the fact that he already had pole. It is not a penalty that they have always so strictly enforced before. This may have been a case where a warning would have been in order.
 

The Artist.....

Champion Elect
Well I am on the fence on this one. Certainly his time should have been disallowed, although that would not have changed the fact that he already had pole. It is not a penalty that they have always so strictly enforced before. This may have been a case where a warning would have been in order.

Max has already had his warning. This is the second time that he has committed this offence. Villeneuve was disqualified from the Japanese GP in 1997 for this!
 

F1Brits_90

Race Winner
List of parts changed on Bottas' car:
Both front suspension assemblies
Power steering rack
Steering column
Steering wheel
LHS and RHS outboard rear suspension assembly
Rear heave spring unit
RARB drop links
RARB
Front wing/nose assembly
Nose pins
Rear wing assembly

Deck wing assembly
Brake master cylinders and brake lines
LHS rear view mirror and canard
LHS barge board LHS bodywork
Gearbox carrier
Gearbox input shaft and input shaft torque sensor
Front cockpit loom
Floor
Plank
Seat belts
ERS pump filter

Mercedes have been busy
 

F1Brits_90

Race Winner
also you cant give verstappen a warning for that as espically in post bianchi period its sets dangerous precedent & he was cocky in written press conference saying just delete that time, ill still be on pole needing bringing down a peg. espically as it was all for his ego he didnt have to do it & palmer saud on chequered flag podcast he got a 3 place penalty & 2 points even though he slowed down post giovinazzi in china
 

Bernoulli

Test Driver
A boring race. It was to be expected that Ferrari's strategy wouldn't work because Vettel was lapping consistently on the mediums and neither Leclerc nor Hamilton were catching him on their fresher hard tyres. Ricciardo also managed 50 laps on the hard compound on a higher fuel load.
 

The Artist.....

Champion Elect
I thought Pirelli’s brief was to make tyres that fell to pieces. Those hard tyres had virtually no degradation, no drop off and no cliff. The tyre compounds should have been one step softer across the piece...
 

Johnny Carwash

Champion Elect
Contributor
Once Verstappen went nearly 65-70 laps on the hard tyres a one stop strategy was the way to go.Hamilton literally just cruised home once he had track position.
 
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