Grand Prix 2014 Monaco Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Monaco. The jewel in the crown. Where the crowd is closer and the colours are brighter. A truly unique track on the F1 calendar and everyone has massive love for it. Well actually they don’t. A lot of voices point out that there is hardly ever any overtaking, the races are dull and the track is just not suitable for modern F1. I, however, am not one of those because I absolutely love Monaco.

For me Monaco is one of the most exciting sporting events on the year. Some people have the cup final, I have Monaco and despite the cries of ‘dull races’ if you think back on It we always have drama at Monaco. Whether it be the three car train and the bumper cars behind of 2011, The team orders of 2007, Schumacher hitting Montoya in the tunnel in 04, Panis coming through the carnage in 96, Mansell all over the back of Senna in 92 or even the wet race no one wanted to win in 1982, there is always something to talk about at Monte Carlo.

So why do people think its dull? Well it is true that it is not easy to overtake so you are never going to see wheel banging and people charging through the field. Its just not going to happen. If that’s what makes an exciting race for you then, yes, you’re going to find it dull. However this is a track that is surrounded by walls and is completely unrelenting when it comes to errors. The drivers have to be completely concentrated throughout as one error would result in disaster. Throw in the fact that track position is everything and more often than not you’ll get cars holding up people who are far quicker and you get a pressure cooker situation. Sometimes you can actually feel the nerves sitting in your arm chair at home knowing that drivers are gritting their teeth as one false move means they’ve made a mess of their race.

Which brings me to this seasons new cars. We keep hearing comments from pundits about how they’ve never seen so many errors and how the drivers are really having to get a hold of the cars. This to me means that we should expect a very interesting Monaco. If the cars are difficult it means mistakes are more likely to happen which means we could be in for a topsy turvy race with a high attrition rate. You only have to go back to the race in 1996 and even a glance at 2004 to see mixed up races in Monaco can produce a completely unexpected result.
Due to the nature of the circuit its is also somewhat of a car leveller which means the driver comes into play a lot more. If you look at previous winners it appears to be a track number 2 drivers come to the front on. I suspect this is to do with a sudden confidence boost they have that they are not being beaten hand over fist by their team mate.

So where are we with this season? Well despite the pressure from his team mate I still think the only person who can beat Lewis Hamilton this year is Lewis Hamilton with the radio transmissions in Spain reminding us that he is certainly a worrier when things don’t feel 100%. Rosberg is always good at Monaco and it will be interesting to see what happens to Lewis if he does lose one. Despite the playing field being levelled somewhat by the track I can't see past another Merc win if they finish the race or don't mess up. We haven't seen this sort of dominance by a team since the Williams era of the mid 90's and its not going to go away quickly.

Red Bull are certainly best of the rest with a great recovery drive from Vettel in Spain and a steady but impressive podium from Ricciardo. Its pretty certain that Seb will have it in his head that this is where he is to stop the charge of his new team mate but he’ll need to have better luck with mechanical failures if he’s even going to get the chance to do that.

The team mate battle at Ferrari finally hotted up in Spain but it was still Alonso he came out on top. Some debate over whether he only managed it due to the better strategy but there is no question that Alonso pulled a pretty handy move off on Kimi near the end. Kimi does not have the best rep at Monaco although having said that Alonso hardly has an outstanding track record.

The dark horses? Well Grosjean had a blinder of a race in Spain despite his car having a fault and being massively under powered down the straights for the entire race, not to mention the fact he was complaining the whole car pulled left when he braked, so it could be that the car leveller that is Monaco will allow him to dice it out proper at the front. Bottas appears to be getting closer and closer to the front each race and Hulkenberg is always worth a punt if you are after a dark horse, however Perez has been keeping him at bay of late.

So Moanco – do you love it? Do you hate it? What are well expect from this years race?
 
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All of Perez's moves were made by forcing the other driver off of the track and I think you will find the stewards will take a very dim view of that sort of driving this year...
 
Seeing as you do want to debate it again. By the way, you won't change my opinion. Not true. A legit and awesome overtake on Button without forcing anyone off the track. Same move on Alonso, where the response was something along the lines (Cheeky git, you can't overtake me there, **** off, you can't have it, I am going to cut the chicane and hope not to get a penalty - followed by a penalty issued to Alonso from the stewards Edit: an instruction to give the place back). Same move again on Raikonnen whose response was something along the lines of (Cheeky git, you can't overtake me there, try that again and I'll put you in the ****ing wall you little shit. Perez tried it again and Raikonnen put him in the wall.)
 
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Good call. A Merc on pole. Could be either driver. Pole-sitter will take the win unless something adverse happens which throws in some random element of chance.
 
Engine power may not be so important here. They've never driven with such torque so close to walls either, but I expect them to all surprise us yet again with their talent and professionalism.
 
Mercedes will still win by a landslide, Monaco might reduce the advantage but lest we forget we have seen races at Monaco dominated before, why should this year be any different, especially with their advantage!
 
I think the Mercs will lap the field twice if there are no safety cars, and it is doing F1 no favours at all already people are banging on Bernie's door because they cannot sell tickets for their venues due to a complete lack of interest in a sport where one team dominates, someone even likened F1 as an alternative to Valium...
 
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Looks like they have a snazzy new building at the exit of the tunnel:
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That building above the tunnel is quite cool. I like the park on top.

But I don't see how Merc will be able to get by everyone to lap them twice. Still think they'll win fairly handily though.
 
....But I don't see how Merc will be able to get by everyone to lap them twice....

They start from the front of the grid. They then drive until they catch the "lanterne rouge" whereupon the marshals wave blue coloured flags, the "lanterne rouge" then moves out of the way to let them past. This is repeated with every driver in the race, twice.

I don't think it will happen, but they may well lap an even greater number of drivers than they did in Barcelona.
 
It still will slow them down some at a track like Monaco where there really isn't a whole lot of room to let somebody past. And I don't see them being that much quicker at a track where the car and engine aren't quite as important.
 
Lets hope it's not due to a DNF on Hamilton's part or the whole ****ing place will go up, banging on about the perceived unfair points system when it goes against a favoured driver.
 
I think you are right: he should have had pole in 2012 but they sent him out too early for his last run. Schumi ended up with a useless pole because of his impending demotion. Mercedes own-goal. Rosberg is a bit of a Monaco specialist.
 
Because 1st and 8th aren't used much, so it's difficult to get data to calculate them.
1st is just for starts and the Loews hairpin at Monaco and is also naturally difficult to get accurate data for due to the increased wheel spin.
8th is for the longest straights on the calendar (Mercedes seem to use 8th only when they are overtaking.) The teams can only change their ratios once in the season, so the teams with shorter gearing (e.g. Ferrari) will be expecting to change them before Monza.

The three on the right aren't as accurate as the others yet, particularly Caterham (which was from wet running IIRC, where the increased size of the wet tyre has to be taken into account).
 
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