Grand Prix 2014 Monaco Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Mephistopheles

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All of Perez's moves were made by forcing the other driver off of the track and I think you will find the stewards will take a very dim view of that sort of driving this year...
 

ExtremeNinja

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Seeing as you do want to debate it again. By the way, you won't change my opinion. Not true. A legit and awesome overtake on Button without forcing anyone off the track. Same move on Alonso, where the response was something along the lines (Cheeky git, you can't overtake me there, **** off, you can't have it, I am going to cut the chicane and hope not to get a penalty - followed by a penalty issued to Alonso from the stewards Edit: an instruction to give the place back). Same move again on Raikonnen whose response was something along the lines of (Cheeky git, you can't overtake me there, try that again and I'll put you in the ****ing wall you little shit. Perez tried it again and Raikonnen put him in the wall.)
 
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ExtremeNinja

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Good call. A Merc on pole. Could be either driver. Pole-sitter will take the win unless something adverse happens which throws in some random element of chance.
 

teabagyokel

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Engine power may not be so important here. They've never driven with such torque so close to walls either, but I expect them to all surprise us yet again with their talent and professionalism.
 

Jos the Boss

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Mercedes will still win by a landslide, Monaco might reduce the advantage but lest we forget we have seen races at Monaco dominated before, why should this year be any different, especially with their advantage!
 

Mephistopheles

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I think the Mercs will lap the field twice if there are no safety cars, and it is doing F1 no favours at all already people are banging on Bernie's door because they cannot sell tickets for their venues due to a complete lack of interest in a sport where one team dominates, someone even likened F1 as an alternative to Valium...
 
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soccerman17

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Looks like they have a snazzy new building at the exit of the tunnel:
That building above the tunnel is quite cool. I like the park on top.

But I don't see how Merc will be able to get by everyone to lap them twice. Still think they'll win fairly handily though.
 

Bill Boddy

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....But I don't see how Merc will be able to get by everyone to lap them twice....
They start from the front of the grid. They then drive until they catch the "lanterne rouge" whereupon the marshals wave blue coloured flags, the "lanterne rouge" then moves out of the way to let them past. This is repeated with every driver in the race, twice.

I don't think it will happen, but they may well lap an even greater number of drivers than they did in Barcelona.
 

soccerman17

Race Winner
It still will slow them down some at a track like Monaco where there really isn't a whole lot of room to let somebody past. And I don't see them being that much quicker at a track where the car and engine aren't quite as important.
 

Mephistopheles

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Lets hope it's not due to a DNF on Hamilton's part or the whole ****ing place will go up, banging on about the perceived unfair points system when it goes against a favoured driver.
 

ExtremeNinja

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I think you are right: he should have had pole in 2012 but they sent him out too early for his last run. Schumi ended up with a useless pole because of his impending demotion. Mercedes own-goal. Rosberg is a bit of a Monaco specialist.
 

Hamberg

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I do hope Rosberg wins, it'll be good for the championship and will spice things up at Merc.
 

pob

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Because 1st and 8th aren't used much, so it's difficult to get data to calculate them.
1st is just for starts and the Loews hairpin at Monaco and is also naturally difficult to get accurate data for due to the increased wheel spin.
8th is for the longest straights on the calendar (Mercedes seem to use 8th only when they are overtaking.) The teams can only change their ratios once in the season, so the teams with shorter gearing (e.g. Ferrari) will be expecting to change them before Monza.

The three on the right aren't as accurate as the others yet, particularly Caterham (which was from wet running IIRC, where the increased size of the wet tyre has to be taken into account).
 
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