Grand Prix 2012 Spanish Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

With the flyaway races finished for the time being the F1 bandwagon rolls into Europe for the first time for the Spanish Grand Prix. Traditionally this race hasn't provided the most entertaining of races with the pole sitter more often than not going on to win the race. 2011 was no exception as pole sitter Sebastian Vettel went on to win the race, however he wasn't by any means cruising as Lewis Hamilton charged him down and almost managed to take the lead off the young German but ran out of laps as he just couldn't get into the DRS window around a track that is difficult to overtake on.

Going into this years race it is virtually impossible on who is going to win the race. So far there have been 4 different winners with Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso, Nico Rosberg and Sebastian Vettel all having stood on the top step of the podium so far this season and there hasn't been any team which has been consistently at the front at all four races with everyone having their fair share of problems and also benefiting from other peoples problems. The only truly consistent teams seem to be in the regions of midfield with teams like Williams who are now regular contenders for points after their 2012 car is proving to be far better than their dismal 2011 effort which barely managed to get a point and they have already surpassed last years total in just 4 races which isn't a bad achievement considering both drivers weren't exactly tipped for great things this season.

The buzzword at Mclaren at the moment and particularly for Lewis Hamilton is undoubtedly pit stops after a series of poor stops destroyed his race in Bahrain and also in Australia when he got caught out by the safety car. Jenson Button has also been affected by poor pit stops which show how these aren't isolated incidents and it is something that Mclaren urgently need to address as there is virtually no chance of getting on the podium let alone winning a race if they keep botching pit stops, for example, Hamilton lost well over 20 seconds from just pit stop problems which robbed them of at the very least 4th place if not a podium but this was probably unlikely given the supreme pace of Raikkonen and Grosjean in the lotus cars.

Indeed, lotus finally managed their most consistent race of the season and showed that they have designed a very fast race car as Kimi Raikkonen very nearly won his first race since returning to the sport in only his fourth race as an aggressive race saw him get within striking distance of leader Vettel but ultimately fell slightly away and had to settle for second which was still a fantastic result and with Grosjean finishing a comfortable third things are looking up for lotus going into the European season.

Barcelona is traditionally a hot and dry race although there have been wet races before although there hasn't been a rain affected race for a good number of years now. However it will be still difficult to suggest a possible winner as it depends who was the most productive at the Mugello test which starts today (Tuesday 1st May) and teams like Ferrari are banking that the raft of updates and upgrades that they will bring to the car for Barcelona will kick start their stuttering season which would be a boost for Fernando Alonso at his home race and an improved car would easily give him a good chance of a third drivers championship as he has already won a race in the below average Ferrari that is lower points at best at this moment in time but that could change for Barcelona and they will need to otherwise heads could be rolling at Maranello if Ferrari are out of the Championship before it has barely got going.

For Galahad 's brilliant circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-catalunya/
 
Remember that bit of radio transmission from Hamilton complaing his gear ratios were woefully inaccurate?
Could they possibly have been so amateurish as to actually forget to adjust fuel loads for quali after gear ratios were corrected?
 
This is starting to get ridiculous. It is always 2 steps forward and 1 back for Lewis. Still, I feel he has the speed to win this race. Looks like Maldonado is going to inherit his first pole position. :O
 
Remember that bit of radio transmission from Hamilton complaing his gear ratios were woefully inaccurate?
Could they possibly have been so amateurish as to actually forget to adjust fuel loads for quali after gear ratios were corrected?

Wasn't that in FP3, when gear ratios are already fixed? I expect they would be more likely to change the diff to adjust all the ratios at once.
 
In situations like this, I firmly believe it's the team who should be punished and not the driver.
The same applies to things like unsafe releases, etc. where the driver really has no control over it.
Well, maybe the driver has no control over it, but it does benefit the driver. An unsafe release means he left earlier than should have been allowed (i.e. he wins time). And less fuel means a lighter car (i.e. he wins time).
 
In situations like this, I firmly believe it's the team who should be punished and not the driver.
The same applies to things like unsafe releases, etc. where the driver really has no control over it.
What sort of punishment could be given to the team that doesn't affect the driver? A fine is pittance and won't really class as a punishment to a team like Mclaren. And anyway, a driver is a representative of the team, so by punishing the driver, you are punishing the team.
 
Apparently the problem was due to a refuelling issue in the pits.
Perhaps the equipment under reported the amount which was put in the car?

If it's a genuine mistake then the stewards would have to be harsh indeed to issue a penalty.
10 litres of fuel costs around 3 tenths of a second so an extra 2 litres would still have seen Hamilton comfortably on pole.
 
Incubus That would more likely be an issue if the gearing were too short since the engine would be revving higher and higher for longer to travel over a given distance - an extreme example would be driving down the motorway at 70mph in third gear would use a lot more gas than doing the trip in top.
 
What sort of punishment could be given to the team that doesn't affect the driver? A fine is pittance and won't really class as a punishment to a team like Mclaren. And anyway, a driver is a representative of the team, so by punishing the driver, you are punishing the team.
The team not scoring that particular drivers constructor points. Now that would punish the team and not the driver
 
What makes the situation even more laughable for Mclaren and Lewis Hamilton is the fact that most of his nearest rivals qualified 8th or lower. Talk about trying to make life hard for yourselves.:rolleyes:
 
Johnny Carwash It is similar to his other grid penalty Button 6th, Webber 7th, Vettel 11th and he got thrown back with them. We could well see our 5th different winner tomorrow. Only Alonso in the top 6 has won a race. :o

What's the record for number of different winners in a season? We could have that knocked off by mid-season.
 
mjo

Well the 4 extra races might give it a chance, but I'd find it difficult to count 11 different winners from our group. Might get 8 or 9 if it continues this way.
 
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