Grand Prix 2012 Australian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Gentleman, start your engines

Despite it feeling only a few weeks since the season ending Brazilian Grand Prix last November the Australian Grand Prix is coming very quickly into view to start of a season which hopefully promises to be a lot closer than the 2011 season where Sebastian Vettel ran away with the Championship and had it virtually won by mid season.

Looking at testing and it is virtually impossible to see who is in the best shape going into the season opener apart from that Mclaren and Red Bull are the two teams in the best shape which really isn't surprising but the big surprise is the continual lack of pace from Ferrari despite a radical new car (the issues I commented on on a previous thread).

As for the midfield it is anyone's guess as all the midfield have all been up and down the testing rankings throughout the winter and it'll only be qualifying where we see a true reflection of where the grid is in terms of reliability. Without a doubt Lotus have had the most work to do after they had to make a major chassis change involving suspension mounts which meant abandoning one of the test sessions but that doesn't seem to have had a major effect on the team and with Kimi Raikkonen at the wheel it is hoped that they can challenge Mercedes after a fairly disappointing 2011 after a strong start.

Once again HRT are the joke of the entire grid as they once again go into the first race of the season without having so much as turned the wheel before after crash test problems earlier this year and it will be a miracle if they actually qualify as they failed to do so in Melbourne in 2011, but they could be joined by Marussia who have also had problems with their new car and have had to test with a modified 2011 car recently and they will also be struggling to even qualify for Melbourne which isn't good news for the team unless they can pull a rabbit out of the hat with the new car.

This seasons cars (apart from Mclaren) are characterised by the distinctive stepped nose due to new regulations about front wing height and this is how the vast majority of teams have interpreted this rule and it seems that only Mclaren are running a 'smooth' nose and it remains to be seen whether this was a correct decision and one that can mean they can challenge for the title after an average 2011 (unless you're Button of course)

For the British viewers 2012 is going to be a completely different viewing experience as Formula One is going to be broadcast on satellite television for the first time. When it was announced that Sky would be broadcasting F1 with BBC showing only half of the races (live) it was met with uproar from all quarters but as more details have been announced, many fans (me included) are rather looking forward to the full F1 package that is being provided this season with the F1 channel being launched in a matter of days!

For Galahads brilliant circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/melbourne-grand-prix-circuit-albert-park/
 
The problem is the inevitability that DRS brings. But, if the FIA are clever where they zone the DRS, it could work well, addressing all of the problems stated above.

Back to Melbourne, it will be interesting to see whether Caterham can break into Q2 and if HRT and Marussia can make the 107% rule - I think those two things will be the most interesting things in qualifying this weekend. Oh, and FOM may introduce some snazzy new graphics.
 
In short sunny overall with showers of rain across all days, whether that affects the race is yet to be seen, I was warned about the unpredictable weather but at my guess, I think they will be rain but it may come just after the race finishes!
 
So that means it will rain in the race then!
I don't mind if it doesn't rain, as Melbourne usually produces a good race in the dry.
 
Do we foresee an element of randomness in this years qualifying? A preview of the season with Alguersuari on BBC seems to suggest the optimum window of a tyre is to be extremely thin this year, meaning it could cost teams a few places if they don't hit the sweet spot in that window. Sounds exciting to me. A mixed up grid based on skill sounds like what F1 has been seeking for a while. Whether it will workout that way, we will have to see...
 
One of the things I am looking forward to this year is safety car periods allowing lapped cars through. I understood they wanted to get on with the race, but I'd rather wait an extra 2-3 minutes if we can reset the grid.

Do we know why they haven't sorted out the fact that you can cut the chicane to keep a place, but not overtake? That is another stupid FIA rule...
 
Good. Vettel's overtake there last year clearly should've been illegal; especially, considering the Button-Massa incident. Button was not impressed.
 
Do we foresee an element of randomness in this years qualifying? A preview of the season with Alguersuari on BBC seems to suggest the optimum window of a tyre is to be extremely thin this year, meaning it could cost teams a few places if they don't hit the sweet spot in that window. Sounds exciting to me. A mixed up grid based on skill sounds like what F1 has been seeking for a while. Whether it will workout that way, we will have to see...


quali could be made worse because we might see more drivers not bothering to much in q3.
also because of these tyres we might see drivers not attacking and not defending.instead they might just wait to only try overtakes in the drs zone.which will make things very predictable and reduce actual racing.hope im wrong tho,but i think f1 is going down hill.
 
quali could be made worse because we might see more drivers not bothering to much in q3.
also because of these tyres we might see drivers not attacking and not defending.instead they might just wait to only try overtakes in the drs zone.which will make things very predictable and reduce actual racing.hope im wrong tho,but i think f1 is going down hill.

 
One of the things I am looking forward to this year is safety car periods allowing lapped cars through. I understood they wanted to get on with the race, but I'd rather wait an extra 2-3 minutes if we can reset the grid.

Do we know why they haven't sorted out the fact that you can cut the chicane to keep a place, but not overtake? That is another stupid FIA rule...

I find that quite unfair actually, you can be 2 laps down and have a terrible race, yet a safety car can change all your fortunes and you can fight for the points again.

Safety car is usually quite unfair in the first place with drivers with big gaps have the gap closed down to nothing.
 
I find that quite unfair actually, you can be 2 laps down and have a terrible race, yet a safety car can change all your fortunes and you can fight for the points again.

Ummmm, how does unlapping yourself and joining the back of the queue get you back in the fight for points? You are still in the same position relative to all the other divers in terms of finishing position, and you are still in a car which is slow enough to have been lapped already, so the unlapping just stops you getting between drivers who really are racing for points, you gain no real advantage from it at all.
 
Seems as if you are kind of missing the point, let's use Lewis Hamilton in Nurburgring 2007 as an example, he was allowed to unlap himself and fight for the points, same if you use button at Canada this year if he was a lap down.

Or if you are a lap down for whatever reason, you are suddenly back in a fight for the points when you were let's say 1-2 laps down after a bad pitstop, collision, poor start etc.

You don't necessarily need to have a slow car to be lapped.

I can see the counter argument for it.

To be honest it's probably better this way, I have also seem to have lost my original point. :thinking:

Time for my medication LOL
 
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