The Future Of F1

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by Greenlantern101, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Liberty presented their vision of the future today in a presentation to the teams. It is rather loose so expect lots of speculation and argument before this is all agreed. The Bullet points in the press release are below. It all sounds promising but the exact details of how they are going to achieve this wish list has not been stated.

    Liberty reveals vision for cheaper, more spectacular F1

    Power units (PU)
    • The PU must be cheaper, simpler, louder, have more power and reduce the necessity of grid penalties.
    • It must remain road relevant, hybrid and allow manufacturers to build unique and original PU.
    • New PU rules must be attractive for new entrants and Customer teams must have access to equivalent performance.

    Costs
    • Liberty believes how you spend the money must be more decisive and important than how much money you spend.
    • While there will be some standardised elements, car differentiation must remain a core value.
    • Implement a cost cap that maintains Formula 1 position as the pinnacle of motorsport with a state-of-the-art technology.

    Revenues
    • The new revenue distribution criteria must be more balanced, based on meritocracy of the current performance and reward success for the teams and the Commercial Rights Holder.
    • F1s unique, historical franchise and value must and will still be recognised.
    • Revenue support to both cars and engine suppliers.

    Sporting and technical rules & regulations
    • It wants to make cars more raceable to increase overtaking opportunities.
    • Engineering technology must remain a cornerstone but driver's skill must be the predominant factor in the performance of the car.
    • The cars must and will remain different from each other and maintain performance differentiators like aerodynamics, suspensions and PU performance. However, we believe areas not relevant to fans need to be standardised.

    Governance
    • A simple and streamlined structure between the teams, the FIA and Formula 1.
     
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  3. rufus_mcdufus

    rufus_mcdufus Champion Elect

    "F1s unique, historical franchise and value must and will still be recognised." - in other words, Ferrari must still get special payments.
     
  4. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Yeh I wondered if that was the 'translation' as well.
     
  5. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    Sounds great. I worry about road relevance because its not just F1 by 2021 most of the world wont be fuel based. It will be batteries & hydrogen. So i feel we are going down a cul de sac with that. But rest is good not bothered overtaking like punte del este Forumla e race proved i just want to get cars to follow

    I like cost cap as i said on liberty thread this morning. $150m is about £107m (5.1m a race) which i like because ive said before that a budget of around Force India Is enough. Because look at how great their car was in 2015 2016 & 2017 despite spending so little compared to rivals they were beating
     
  6. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    We've heard it all before.

    Once the teams get through with the bickering, in fighting and dumping on each other it will still look like what we have already.
     
  7. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Thats the spirit cider_and_toast LOLLOL
     
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  8. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    The teams overthrew an FIA president and put their own puppet in charge last time someone tried to implement a budget cap.
     
  9. Rutherford

    Rutherford Podium Finisher

    No. No. No. No, they will still be fuel based. Solely fuel based. Hydrogen is more or less out of question, for some reason the car companies aren't interested in developing that technology anymore.
    It would be nice if F1, as it is a prototype series, would go ahead and develop a hydrogen engine.

    Spot on. Same old same old.
     
  10. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Not only is it the same old same but if you cut through the jargon it doesn't really say anything at all. It's all very vague and outlines things they want to do without giving an indication of how they are going to do them.

    Was it drafted by a civil servant?
     
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  11. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Absolutely. As a mission statement this is all fine - the arguments will start when it comes to How this is to be done.
     
  12. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    The most difficult thing to enforce would be the budget caps, particularly for the manufacturers. They can hide all sorts of F1 germain testing and development by claiming it is applicable to road cars.

    Same old, same old, unfortunately.
     
  13. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    They already do that. Merc, Ferrari and Renault have been shoving their engines in 'mule' road cars and been pounding them round and round for about 5 years now. None of that is declared. Honda just couldn't figure out how the hell they were so far behind because, bless them, they thought that rules in F1 actually meant something.
     
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  14. sobriety

    sobriety Pole Sitter

    The future of F1?

    If that's their plan, the irrelevance, unfortunately.
     
  15. Titch

    Titch Smile Premium Contributor

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    It all sounds good. Until you get to the revenue section.
     
  16. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    How long until liberty media realise that F1 cant be a democracy & has to be dictatorship because they will never agree or vote for something that will effect the competitiveness. Even if its makes F1 have racing like F2
     
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  17. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    I've been waiting for someone to realise that for at least a decade. Who would have thought we'd miss Max Mosley?
     
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  18. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Nope not missing him or Bernie.
     
  19. Rutherford

    Rutherford Podium Finisher

    I miss Bernie. I really do. He was there this weekend sporting his old F1 sport with the old F1 logo.

    The Future of F1: Bleak.
     
  20. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Max is a nob. No question. Can you really say Jean Todt has been a more effective FIA president though?
     
  21. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    I have no idea what the job involves day to day. Jean may well be excellent at his job. What I do know is Max enjoyed playing up for the Media where as Jean retreats from it. His lack of 'public presence' may well bias people into thinking he is less 'effective' what ever that means.
     

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