Current Red Bull Racing

Red Bull Racing

FIA Entry: Red Bull Racing Renault
Car 1: Sebastien Vettel
Car 2: Mark Webber
Engine: Renault V8
Team Owner: Dietrich Mateschitz
Team Principal: Christian Horner
Chief Technical: Office Adrian Newey
Chief Designer: Rob Marshall
Race Engineer Car 1: Guillaume “Rocky” Rocquelin
Race Engineer Car 2: Ciaron Pilbeam

Stats as of end 2010

First Entered 2005
Races Entered 107
Race Wins 15
Pole Positions 20
Fastest Laps 12
Driver World Championships 1
Constructor World Championships 1

Team History

Before Red Bull

In 1997 Paul Stewart, aided by his father Jackie and the Ford Motor Company, made the leap from F3000 to F1 as an entrant. Jonny Herbert won 1 race for the Stewart team before it was sold off to Ford who re-branded the cars as Jaguar.

Ford stuck with it through thick and thin (mainly thin) through to the end of 2004 before selling the team to Dietrich Mateschitz, who owns the Red Bull drinks brand, for $1 on the understanding he invested $400 million over 3 years

Red Bull Racing

With Christian Horner installed as team principal, McLaren refugee David Coulthard and Christian Klien as the drivers Red Bull went racing. Their first season was certainly more successful than Jaguar had managed, even with the same Cosworth power plant, with Coulthard managing a 4th place at the European Grand Prix and the team finishing 7th in the Constructors Championship.

Adrian Newey joined from McLaren as chief designer for 2006 and Red Bull swapped to Ferrari engines. Coulthard managed a podium at his "home" race in Monaco prompting Christian Horner to jump naked, other than wearing a red cape, into a swimming pool.

Christian Klien, who shared the car with Vitantonio Liuzzi in 2005 and Robert Doornbos in 2006, departed the team for 2007 and was replaced by Mark Webber. The RB3 was the first full "Newey" car and was coupled with a Renault motor. The car was very unreliable, suffering from a variety of different problems but Webber managed a podium at the European Grand Prix and the team finished 5th in the WCC.

Retaining the same engine and drivers for 2008 Red Bull slipped back to 7th in the WCC and again only managed a single podium, for Coulthard in Canada, but the reliability issues which plagued the car the previous season were mainly resolved.

2009 was Red Bull's break through year. With Coulthard having retired Webber was joined by Red Bull junior driver Sebastien Vettel. The new rules allowed Newey to design a car which challenged for both the Drivers and Constructors Championship. Webber won 2 races, Vettel 4 and the team climbed to 2nd in WCC taking 3 pole positions en-route.

In 2010 Red Bull justified Mateschitz's investment winning the Constructors title and Vettel the Drivers Championship. They won 9 races through the season, 5 for Vettel and 4 for Webber and took 10 poles. Webber led the title race for much of the season but it was the 23 year old Vettel who stole the title in the last race of the season and became the youngest Champion as a result.

2011 sees the team retain the same driver line up as 2010 and continue with Renault engine power in the new RB7 car.
 
A brand like Red Bull to leave F1.. the only losers then would be the drivers and the engineers who have to look for jobs and one good thing out of them quitting F1 is we don't have to hear Christian:bawl: Horner every week why they aint winning and demanding rule changes

Ferrari don't have to bend over backwards to give them engines even if Red Bull want them on the cheap. In fact Ferrari have bargaining power of supplier if they Red Bull desperately want the engines. If anything Ferrari might say can we have first options on your drivers in return

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Now the VW deal which brand would people expect to see. TO sound ground I think Audi would be great to highlight their "

Vorsprung durch Technik ( Advancement through technology)" which would fit with F1

I don't see Porsche being used as some will be quick to point their previous failure

Lamborghini - well what they did achieve back in the 90's?:whistle:A disastrous works team which nearly got 1pt and partnerships with Lola an Lotus that did not bring anything
 
Dont you love formula 1 for 18mths Red Bull & Renault been in slanging match trading insults & week they have all but unofficially split. They get on the front row. Now Imagine if they had a competitive engine
 
Its all posturing and some deal will be done I'm fairly sure. Even if its done by Bernie.

I'd love to see the scramble in the drivers market if they do pull out though. As most teams have their driver deals done we'd either end up with Manor having a line up of Ricciardo and Verstappen, or we'd have a whole bunch of drivers taking teams to court for breech of contract.
 
From the Motorsport link from Brogan:

"Mateschitz has been clear since the start of the year that Red Bull would not continue in F1 with a customer engine deal."

Does he honestly think that there is ever going to be a 'Ferrari-Red Bull' engine?
 
Red Bull has used Ferrari engines in the past (2006, I looked it up :)) and it seems to me that they used the "works" engine. Having said that, many things have changed since then (the fact that Red Bull has been 4 times WCC whereas Ferrari only 1 time comes to mind) and there's a delicate balance between making money off of a competitor vs losing the championship to them. It's a difficult call, but I'm pretty sure somewhere in that mysterious Concord agreement, Ferrari agrees to give just that (the works engine) if ... (and then there's a blank space that none of us know how to fill in). I'm good with RedBull using "our" engines, after all we poached Vettel from them so they have been neutered LOL but will Arrivabene be Ok?
 
To be honest Ferrari could just tell them its a works engine and they wouldn't know any different.

It would be good PR when they thrashed them too.
 
Just what comes with an engine? There is usually a lot of information and personnel involved, could Ferrari just hand them over without any support?
 
Red Bull have a history of blaming engines when they are not winning

Ferrari could provide Red Bull the same engine but not the key parts that make it work and they will still be complaining if they don't win that they have not got the same engines

I go back to DTM in the mid 90's Zakspeed were ran as Mercedes and were assured that it is the same spec and equipment as AMG Mercedes - the factory team. However as the season wore on AMG Mercedes were dominant and winning everything whilst Zakspeed ended up suffering a lot of retirements and were utterly convinced they are not getting the same equipment and decided to switch to Opel for the future

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Red Bull can bully a lot of people in F1 but I think you will find Ferrari certainly will not sway to their demands that easily
 
Just what comes with an engine? There is usually a lot of information and personnel involved, could Ferrari just hand them over without any support?

Marko: “If it were a few horsepower less we would not be concerned. In the end you can check that very easily with the GPS data and other parameters to see what you really get. The truth is that the engine – the hardware – is not the real issue. That is the software and the same fuel.”
 
ahhh so thats the real issue then. Ferrari have really developed their fuel recently which has really increased the performace of the engine.

I reckon Ferrari have said you can have the engine but you can't have the fuel and Red Bull have had a strop.
 
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