Manor (formerly Marussia)

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  1. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    Ford says Formula 1 costs still a turn-off

    When a giant corporation like Ford says F1 is too expensive, people better pay attention.

    Remember, it was Ford that bankrolled the Cosworth, which led to what I consider the Golden Age of F1. It gave rise to the privateers such as Williams, McLaren and too many others to mention. They could all be assured of a competitive engine so the playing field was level.

    Galahad. How did that devalue the competition?
     
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  3. Titch

    Titch Smile Premium Contributor

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    Let's hope that Liberty media get to grips with all this.
     
  4. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Liberty Media still have to pay of a debt earned by F1 paying out 'future profits' to shareholders for next 5 to 10 years so I doubt much will change to start with.
     
  5. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    It didn't, of course. It was the best engine in F1 and moved the sport forward. But teams were free to try other options, as Brabham, Ligier and others did. I'm talking about restricting the amount teams could spend.
     
  6. TR

    TR Rookie

    Are you pretending that F1 was NOT a spending war in that period? The big difference was that back then, the budgets were relatively low in an absolute sense. Consequently, a privateer with deep enough pockets got participate in the spending war. However, there certainly was a spending war. Between 1960 and 2000 F1 budgets went up by around 20% per year, every year for 40 years. This spending war is an integral part of what made F1 great at the time.

    Obviously, this was not sustainable. It is amazing that the explosive exponential growth managed to last for 40 years!
     
  7. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Here's an interesting little graphic.

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    and then plotted on a log scale

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    From here: How money predicts success in Formula 1

    Perhaps Ford should have jumped in in 2011?
     
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  8. TR

    TR Rookie

    That was indeed the data I was using for the 20% per year statement
     
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  9. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    ^those were.
     
  10. TR

    TR Rookie

    "Data" (in modern usage) is an uncountable noun. So "that was"
     
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  11. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    Nonsense.
     
  12. The Pits

    The Pits Harumph. Again. Valued Member

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    Nounsense?
     
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  13. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    I think we are going slightly off topic .. sad for Manor Marussia... Liberty Media may want to try and copy the Indy Car model where there is some form of cost control to make racing fairly even
     
  14. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    I am trying to think are people sad that Ferrari did not compete at the front last season more so than Manor Marussia folding?
     
  15. Andyoak

    Andyoak Race Winner

    I don't think people outside those of us who already watch F1 give a flying **** if Ferrari are even competing; even though Ferrari are probably the only team they could name with any confidence.
     
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  16. Andyoak

    Andyoak Race Winner

    The loss of Manor is probably the loss of the last obvious traces of Max Moseley too.

    Really is the end of an era...
     
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  17. The Artist.....

    The Artist..... Champion Elect

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    Well, Manor, Lotus/Caterham, and HRT all joined with the promise of a budget cap, so they were largely mis-sold the F1 dream... I should like to have seen how they would have performed had the cap ever come to fruition!
     
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  18. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    I have great hopes for this Bernie -less future. Maybe just maybe common sense will triumph over greed.
     
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  19. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Hold on, this is F1 we are talking about.
     
  20. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    What a shame that this didn't work out - Hellmund’s latest F1 dream — owning a team — hurt by...
     
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  21. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    "How do you make a small fortune in (F1) racing? Start with a large fortune,” Hellmund said.
    Visionary.
     

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