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  1. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    yes very sad news, I see a big tribute to Sergio Marchionne on sunday :disappointed:
     
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  3. Izumi

    Izumi Points Scorer

    It was expected, yet it caught us surprised, and unprepared.
    Good bye Mr. Marchionne.

    RIP Sergio.
     
  4. Olivier

    Olivier Race Winner

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    :(
    He was still young (66). It all feels so sudden. Washington Post is saying Cardiac Arrest the cause of death
     
  5. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    66 is young these days. Interesting what effect it will have on Ferrari.
     
  6. Izumi

    Izumi Points Scorer

    GP247 - Editor

    The former Phillip Morris man also indicated that Ferrari will continue to be backed by Marlboro for the foreseeable future, “There is a contract until 2020. This is a relationship that has lasted for 45 years and has brought us mutual benefits. I believe it will continue this way.”. Camilleri’s appointment also strengthens the hand of his former Marlboro colleague Maurizio Arrivabene, the pair worked together at PMI for two decades.
    What changes, if any, one can expect at Ferrari since there is long working relationship between those two men?

    I take crack at it:
    1. Kimi will stay for another year. Arrivabene is found of him.
    2. Camilleri will be inclined to receive Arri's counsel regarding proposed changes in regulations.
     
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  7. Izumi

    Izumi Points Scorer

    Another floor upgrade for Ferrari. Hopefully it will be a "good thing". Sounds like positive piece of news (to some of us).
     
  8. F1Brits_90

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  9. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    Fasinating appartantly ferrari have removed all updates of their big upgrade package from Singapore. This weekend & all of a sudden performance has comeback. So maybe vettel is a part of problem but the title could be lost by the designers
     
  10. Titch

    Titch Champion Elect Premium Contributor

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    On a serious note, I really hope that Ferrari, Mercedes and one other team are fighting each other every week.
     
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  11. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    If the cause of Ferrari's 2018 implosion is due to upgrades that were actually downgrades – and then weren't binned for four or five races – surely heads must roll, one head perhaps.
     
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  12. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    I concur vintly, did no-one look at the data and compare it with the immediate preceding races? Even the radio and tv commentators remarked on it.
     
  13. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Bill Boddy And if it really does turn out that instead of adding the upgrades, actually doing nothing would have won them the championship, then it'll go down as one of the worst cock-ups in the history of F1. (NB my knowledge of historic F1 cock-ups is not extensive.)

    I doubt it's quite that simple, but if Ferrari continue to perform as well as they did in Austin, for the remainder of the season, then maybe it is that simple.
     
  14. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    I think this has been overplayed. Look at the type of Circuit CoA is. It's far more like a Monza and a Spa than a Singapore. They were probably going back to their set up for power circuits.
     
  15. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    The whole team with the exception of Raikkonen is in a mess at the moment. Vettel making too many mistakes in the races, Arrivabene and Binotto in a struggle for power since Machionne's death, and failed upgrades.

    Well, they did revert to the old aero package for the Austin GP.
     
  16. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Austin they were helped maybe that the rain washed off the grip such that there was no real data for Mercedes to benefit from and therefore it was an equalizer
     
  17. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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  18. Il_leone

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    In the past month or so I think the criticism aimed at both Vettel and Ferrari have been very savage especially from the Italian media but no doubt the team despite winning on Sunday are still in disarray

    The bit on Ferrari by Channel 4 before qualifying apparently Marchionne wanted Ferrari to be led by Italians like the old ways which is naive and arrogant thinking given their best years was when Todt led, Byrne designed, Brawn ran from the pitwall and Schumacher was driving which apparently annoyed various people at Maranello

    It is obvious Marchionne had a presence about him when he spoke the team listened or certainly were kept on their toes a bit more , Arrivabene does not seem to be able to manage the team properly or his buddies in the hot seat
     
  19. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Clay

    There is a lot of things wrong with Ferrari

    Arrivabene - prior to Marchionne it seemed like he tried to keep away from the spotlight because he feared Marchionne probably but he has not stepped up since then either. He likes Kimi

    Camilleri - a businessman who knows nothing about running an F1 team

    Then there is Agnelli 's grandson who again knows nothing about running an F1 team and more chosen because he is part of the family

    Raikkonen - past his best despite that fairy tale win but as it was alluded in the race usually he can be indecisive and seems to wait for the pitwall to make decisions. He is not the man you want to manage through a crisis and rally the troops. However he has been badly managed by Ferrari - just how much more could he have done better or really they should have dropped him long ago

    See Vettel next post
     
  20. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Vettel - the mistakes keep piling up and
    Vettel mistakes 'no longer a coincidence', says Brawn

    Ignoring red flags was stupid for someone of his experience
    His pass on Ricciardo - he still managed to slide and hit the Red Bull even though this time he had more room to play with. As Martin Brundle said it is almost as if Seb has lost the art of overtaking

    The Italian press are really savaging him and cutting him up

    Glock has 'rarely' seen Vettel so hurt

    Seb is feeling the drain of fighting the politics at Ferrari and interestingly

    'Vettel spending more time with Red Bull'

    Now I wonder how much will he tolerate and is he going the same away as both Prost and Alonso did in speaking out against the politics and fines himself out of a drive

    If Red Bull can rehire Kyvat why should they not rehire Vettel.? although that would seem to require Verstappen to move unless Vettel accepts a lesser status which I don;t he will to go back to Red Bull

    His situations reminds me of Alonso appearing more often with Flavio and chatting with his old Renault team than with Ron Dennis at Mclaren
     
  21. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    very interesting breaking news from the official F1 wensite who im not used to this as they usually only report on fact but they posted. that Abu Dhabi GP was also the final time that we saw Maurizio Arrivabene at race weekend as Ferrari team principal. Gazzetta dello Sport have reported Technical Director Mattia Binotto has ousted Arrivabene after reportedly tensions between them 2 grew & confirmation could be as soon as later today

    Report: Arrivabene to be replaced by Binotto | Formula 1®

    Ferrari, che rivoluzione! Arrivabene ai saluti, Binotto al comando
     
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