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Discussion in 'Teams' started by FB, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. Angel

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    Andrew Benson is also reporting this on twitter, he said there is no official confirmation of it yet though.
     
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  3. F1Brits_90

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    confirmation now

    The decision was taken together with the company's top management after lengthy discussions related to Maurizio's long-term personal interests as well as those of the team itself. "Ferrari would like to thank Maurizio for his valuable contribution to the team's increasing competitiveness over the past few years, and wish him the best for his future endeavours. With immediate effect, Mattia Binotto will take over as Scuderia Ferrari's team principal. All technical areas will continue to report directly to Mattia."

    Although according to skysports italia a contract renewal had appeared a 'formality' before the Christmas break. so taken us all.by surprise but not now we heard about the rift privately in 2nd half of the season
     
  4. Izumi

    Izumi Points Scorer

    It would be nice to have Publius on board explaining latest drama. While waiting, I shall make some coffee.
     
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  5. F1Brits_90

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    seems there was alot of hidden angst in private of ferrari. where now hes gone it was a shock. now not much because seemingly he wasnt popular in that paddock or back at the factory, as mark hughes editor of motorsport magazine & in SkyF1 commentor box as a silent partner. he's tweeted He tried zero relationship with the media as a policy and intimidation of his staff (& some media). Not a very intelligent policy.

    which I guess is the thing like abit like football when always going well its good but once its goes bad he doesnt have much leeway
     
  6. Angel

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    To be honest I never really warmed to Maurizio, I used to like Stefano Domenicalli though. I am wondering how good the new man Mattia Binotto will be. If Ferrari win, he'll be great, if he doesn't produce the wins, he probably won't last long. Isn't that the Ferrari way?
     
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  7. Izumi

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    I would like to know what was a sticking point between those two protagonists? Management style, dispute in direction of development, garlic breath, or what was it? I am assuming both wanted Ferrari do well, thus it had to be something more serious, altho sometimes someone just irks you without even knowing exactly why's that.
     
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  8. Angel

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    Garlic breath? :snigger: I don't know what it was about Maurizio that I didn't like. He just seemed to be one of those people who I instinctively didn't connect with. Even I can't tell you why exactly, it was just a feeling I suppose.
     
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  9. Il_leone

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    Its official now he's gone which is a year after the rumours first started. Never mind Garlic breath I am sure he has plenty of fag ash breath from the amount of Marlboro's he's been puffing

    Well that means Seb's next on the block if he fails - they've fired just about every one next

    Hardly surprising he's gone given he operated the " Invisible Man" policy and showed no real leadership
     
  10. vintly

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    Wouldn't be surprised if Maurizio is relieved to be gone. He didn't really seem to be enjoying himself anyway.
     
  11. Angel

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    Given all the mistakes he and the team made (and yes I include Vettel in that comment) I'm not surprised he didn't enjoy it. Would anyone?
     
  12. Izumi

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    Neither Marchionne or Arrivabene had any racing pedigree, and F1 doesn't seems an environment in which you serve (racing) apprenticeship at the helm. This was part of the problem IMO.

    One wonders what happened to J. Clear who was suppose to be team's savior on the strategy side.

    The race at Monza was a disaster, and it was an event in which Arri probably sealed and posted his departure papers. I understand his desire to hand over to Kimi nice gift - last win for Ferrari, and at Monza it would had been so much better - but the idea must had been blow for Sebastian mentally. Kimi clocked his time after benefiting from Sebastian's tow (sling), adding insult to the injury, and life was never the same again for No. 5 after that. Vettel did run out of time to have another go.

    Seb has undoubtedly more strenuous relationship with Ferrari, than Michael had, and after MA berated him in public (minding his own business), it was clear that his dream of forming Ferrari in his image - Schumacher's way - was shattered then, and never to be revived. It simply wasn't meant to be.
    We will see what new chef makes of it, but it might also be, that Sebastian's critique by the end of last season of the car might have done some damage to their relationship. We shall see whether Binotto will rise above it. Arri (reportedly) wasn't really liked at Maranello. Binotto can only improve on that in positive way.
     
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  13. Il_leone

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    Izumi Are you sure the new chef is going to offer anything else than pasta ?
     
  14. Il_leone

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    If Binotto decides to operate a clear No 1 and No 2 policy then that will help Vettel to the point where he eliminates one championship rival .

    The relationship between Vettel and Binotto could be interesting given it was clear Arrivabene did not impose that Seb was No 1 and nor did he appear to under pressure to do so .

    Izumi I'd very much doubt Jock Clear is going to stick his neck in the cauldron of Ferrari. Look what happened to both Pat Fry and James Allison both fell out badly with Ferrari once things went downhill

    For Jock to be the man he needs his boss to back him fully to make it work and give him confidence.

    There is too much it is not my responsibility at Ferrari
     
  15. Olivier

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    Hopefully there will be at least some Caprese Salad
     
  16. Izumi

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    Bin has all ingredients to serve us something palatable. It's up to him. On the second point, I am not so sure he will play No. 1 and 2 game. If he however will do that, it might take time for us to be certain. If needed, Vettel will support youngster, however I am not so sure reverse is true. One of the prerequisites for helping teammate is to (i) be in position from which it can be done, and (ii) one has to have right mindset, not thinking running teammate into a wall is a good idea (to help Alonso instead).

    "There is too much it is not my responsibility at Ferrari"... Well Vettel didn't think so, only to find himself next morning in tabloid headlines, berated left, right, and at the centre by his manager, media and "fans" alike.
     
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  17. Izumi

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    I should have added following:
    I am intrigued how so many people "know" and making claims, that Vettel objects to this or that, yet Vettel never actually said anything of that kind (as far as I am aware), in contrast for example to Hamilton, who stated explicitly he did not want to see Alonso driving with him at Mercedes. Will youngster push Vettel? In January, and well before first race is even over, I am not sure if anyone really knows, so, why make such claims? Arri, who was on frontline with drivers for all good and bad was going to keep Kimi on, and not Leclerc, who is suppose to be such an ace in waiting to shove Vettel sideways. Leclerc could be blessing on horizon, we do not know, but what we do know, his promotion poses a risk the team was willing to accept. Now we need some races to see what's with that.
     
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  18. Angel

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    Vettel did state he'd rather keep Kimi as his team mate, then again he already knew the relationship he had with him. Someone new coming in is always a bit of a distraction, it has to be. With a new team mate and a new team boss I am hoping Vettel will be inspired to raise his game. I also hope he and Leclerc can work well together. At this point there is nothing to suggest they won't, it's all supposition so far.
    To me Leclerc seems like a thoroughly decent and nice young man, we'll see if I still feel the same way in a few months time. He will want to make an impression, of course he will, in some ways it's his duty to do so. I just hope they can work well together for the interests of the team as well as their own interests.
     
  19. Izumi

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    Kimi and Seb are (were?) friends. This is rather cultural thing to say - I would like to keep my friend here, as opposed to throwing fit (as someone has suggestedf) and insisting on a "weaker" team-mate, and resisting stronger drivers. Having said that, he also stated that he is not a one to make a call who will partner him in forthcoming season.

    Now this (today):https://www.grandprix247.com/2019/01/09/andretti-vettel-is-good-for-ferrari-not-sure-about-leclerc/

     
  20. Dartman

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    I always compare fast jet pilots to successful F1 drivers, some very nice guys but their job and objective is to win and stay alive everything else is secondary.
     
  21. Angel

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    It's better for the team if their drivers get along I would imagine. Seb knows and gets along with Kimi hence keeping him as a team mate rules out one kind of issue within the team. Who is to say he and young Charles can't get along equally as well? Only time will tell on that one.

    The point of being there isn't to get along with your team mate though, it's to win, sometimes that can lead to terrible friction between drivers as we've all seen too often before. That can be exciting for the fans at times, but I am guessing the teams could live without the added drama and tension.
     

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