Pre-Season 2017 Testing, Car Launches & Chat

[Greenlantern101]

2 weeks today until the first launch.
3 weeks today until testing.

 

[Incubus]

I'm gonna make a very bold prediction.

The fastest car will win the title.

You heeard it here first.

 

[gethinceri]

Fastest in a straight line?

 

[Greenlantern101]

Toro Rosso launch on the 26th

Feb 21st - Renault RS. 17
Feb 22nd - Force India VJM09
Feb 22nd - Sauber filming day
Feb 23rd - Mercedes W08
Feb 24th - Ferrari
Feb 24th - McLaren
Feb 26th - Toro Rosso

All quiet from

Williams
Red Bull
Haas

 

[Il_leone]

No team will use this music to launch their car

 

[Incubus]

Well maybe they should. With the kind of pestilant crap that comes out of F1 garages' speakers (especially Red Bull's) anything else is bound to be some kind of improvement.

 

[Greenlantern101]

Sauber launch the 20th

Sauber to reveal new F1 car ahead of Barcelona run

 

[Incubus]

I've a real bad feeling about Sauber's prospects, and indeed their future...

 

[Rutherford]

You don't have to comprehend their decision to opt for the 2016 engines for a season which allows the engine manufacturers to have unlimited upgrades made to the PUs.
It will be like powering a cruise ship with the engine of a tugboat.
Good Night Sauber.

 

[RasputinLives]

I Don't think Sauber had much of a choice in the 2016 engine thing. Anymore than Torro Rosso did last year.

 

[Il_leone]

Sauber were behind their payments for the engines so Ferrari if they are doing business with them off course want the engine guaranteed payments up to date for a start and would be less inclined giving them the latest specs anyway

Incubus

I think Sauber from 2018 will not be using Ferrari engines and will revert to either Honda or Mercedes engines who both will offer a bit more support and involvement no doubt

 

[Rutherford]

The question isn't what engine supplier Sauber will have 2018, the question is will the F1 team exist in 2018?

 

[RasputinLives]

Sauber are very much a long term survivor and I expect them to be Honda's second team in 2018.

 

[Greenlantern101]

Red Bull reveals launch date for new F1 car

Redbull launch the 26th.

Basically opening the garage door the day before testing starts. Very poor show.

Feb 20th - Sauber
Feb 21st - Renault RS. 17
Feb 22nd - Force India VJM09
Feb 23rd - Mercedes W08
Feb 24th - Ferrari
Feb 24th - McLaren
Feb 26th - Toro Rosso
Feb 26th - Red Bull.

 

[teabagyokel]

They could always launch it in a pitch black barn where no-one can see a bloody thing.

Again.

 

[FB]

Hmmm, not sure how or why the teams would share wind tunnel data to allow someone to reach these conclusions: 2017 Ferrari aero issues, unlikely to challenge Mercedes

 

[FB]

A glimpse of the 2017 Ferrari?

Ferrari v sezóne 2017 podľa Gazzetty

 

[Titch]

Hmmm.

 

[cider_and_toast]

I don't believe for one second something as confidential as wind tunnel data would be shared between teams at any stage. If the data was leaked I'm sure it would provoke a reaction much like spygate.

I would guess teams could simulate some data based on what they know about last seasons cars but thatI wouldn't be much help with thea 2017 rule changes.

 

[Il_leone]

FB how about blame windtunnel data so they can actually test the car properly on track? Ferrari have never been able to produce the best car because their windtunnel results don't transcend to the track

Ferrari remember did not realise how outdated their windtunnel was due to the Schumacher years of relentless track testing

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Rutherford - Sauber will be on the grid as a junior team to either Mercedes or Honda. I

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