The CTA "Very Best Of" Race Grid

[cider_and_toast]

That's a good choice Bro or how about Dan Gurneys Weslake?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eagle_T2G.jpg

(the picture is of the T2G which was the US version it is however, virtually identical to the T1G which was the F1 spec version)

 

[teabagyokel]

We have our grid, we have our track. Who's gonna be on pole?

 

[Brogan]

Very nice too c_a_t.

I went for the Cooper-Climax as it was the car that started it all and IMO looks better than the Eagle.

This thread has given me an idea for one in the F1 forum - car's that changed or had a profound effect on F1.
The Cooper-Climax for example or the Tyrrell 19, or even the Brabham "fan car" and Tyrrell P34 which were both banned and resulted in changes to the tech' reg's.

 

[cider_and_toast]

Ok, this may not be truely accurate however I think it's a pretty good guide to relative pace. I haven't taken into account anything other than a time so I've not looked a wet races etc. The only track I could think off that has remained vitually the same throughout the whole of F1 is Monaco so what I've done is listed the qualifying time for two cars from each team. The list is quite interesting and from this we can then place everything else into some sort of context.

1) Button - Brawn 001 - 1.15.210
2) Barichello - Brawn 001 - 1.15.425
3) Mansell - Williams FW14B - 1.19.495
4) Patrese - Williams FW14B - 1.20.368
5) Alesi - Tyrell 019 - 1.21.801
6) Schumacher - Benetton B195 - 1.22.742
7) Arnoux - Renault RE30B - 1.23.291
8) Herbert - Benetton B195 - 1.23.754
9) Senna - Mclaren MP4/4 - 1.23.998
10) Nakajima - Tyrell 019 - 1.24.371
11) Prost - Renault RE30B - 1.24.439
12) Berger - Mclaren MP4/4 - 1.25.425
13) Scheckter - Ferrari 312T4 - 1.26.45
14) Villeneuve - Ferrari 312T4 - 1.26.52
15) Pace - Brabham 44B - 1.27.67
16) Peterson - Lotus72D - 1.27.7
17) Reuteman - Brabham 44B - 1.27.93
18) Fittipaldi - Lotus 72D - 1.28.1
19) Gugelmin - March 881 - 1.28.610
20) De Cesaris - Minardi M85/B - 1.28.962
21) Nannini - Minardi M85/B - 1.29.447
22) Cappeli - March 881 - 1.29.603
23) Mclaren - Cooper T54 - 1.39.8
24) Fangio - Mercedes W196 - 1.41.1
25) Moss - Mercedes W196 - 1.41.2
26) Brabham - Cooper T54 - 1.42.4

 

[Brogan]

Good work c_a_t.

However, Alain Prost's got his work cut out driving cars 11 & 12 at the same time

 

[teabagyokel]

Lets bring Gerhard Berger in to drive the 1988 McLaren!

 

[cider_and_toast]

Ok, change made

Has any one noticed just how quick Alesi's lap was compared to some much younger cars.

 

[teabagyokel]

Look at how fast the Brawns are - 4 seconds faster! Fair enough thats almost 20 years of progress.

Interestingly, on this grid, Roberto Moreno in his Andrea Moda in 1992 would qualify 12th ahead of Berger's McLaren (which was Prost's!)!

Bruno Giacomelli's Life in 1990 qualifies (just) ahead of Moss in 1955, although Bernie Ecclestone's Connaught in 1958 is still 5 minutes slow!

Shows what progress did before the temperature in F1 hit -50, and everything was frozen!

 

[cider_and_toast]

Look at how fast the Brawns are - 4 seconds faster! Fair enough thats almost 20 years of progress.

You can look at it this way: (Fastest Older car to Slowest New Car)

1961 Cooper to 1979 Ferrari +12.5 Seconds (Gap of 18 Years)
1973 Lotus to 1990 Tyrell +3.4 Seconds (Gap of 17 Years)
1982 Renault to 1995 Benneton -0.5 Seconds (Gap of 14 Years)
1992 Williams to 2009 Brawn +4 Seconds (Gap of 17 Years)

 

[Brogan]

Inspired by c_a_t's qualifying times, I've put together a list of all fastest laps at Monaco.

The thread is here: F1 Fastest Laps - Circuit de Monaco