snowy
Champion Elect
Corrected that for you...
Head To Head Nico Rosberg vs Lewis Hamilton
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Il_leone
World Champion
Dario Resta Malaysia 99 - it was an interesting in that Schumacher was signficantly faster than Irvine and had to drive slowly to let him through twice and block Hakkinen which makes you think was he really that injured with the speed he had shown
What if Schumacher had struggled then ?
But in Japan he was not as helpful to Irvine
Ferrari had to act after the missing tyre debacle at Nurburgring and there were accusations levelled that if Schumacher was still driving then it would not have happened
There were certain things that Todt was saying like he blamed Irvine for overshooting his pitbox by a few millimetres which cost them a race win at Silverstone and things like Irvine must be able to do it by himself to become world champion.
The constructors title in 1999 was deemed acceptable and Todt could use the political ground if Schumacher was fit for the whole season they would have won the driver's title as well.
What if Schumacher had struggled then ?
But in Japan he was not as helpful to Irvine
Ferrari had to act after the missing tyre debacle at Nurburgring and there were accusations levelled that if Schumacher was still driving then it would not have happened
There were certain things that Todt was saying like he blamed Irvine for overshooting his pitbox by a few millimetres which cost them a race win at Silverstone and things like Irvine must be able to do it by himself to become world champion.
The constructors title in 1999 was deemed acceptable and Todt could use the political ground if Schumacher was fit for the whole season they would have won the driver's title as well.
I wish Lewis had acted this way on Sunday, I guess he needed time to cool off
2006, after Lewis won the GP2 championship following Nico's 2005 title?
rufus_mcdufus
Champion Elect
Well he tweeted it yesterday. Whether it's a rehash of seomthing he said years ago who knows, but he clearly thought it relevant to now.
It was an attempt at a joke.
Lewis Hamilton had several poor Race Starts this season but somewhat surprisingly they had very little impact on his finishing position. Four times this year he fell back from his grid position and finished behind where he started, losing a grand total of five positions.
AUS - Started 1st finished 2nd
BAH - Started 1st finished 3rd (hit by Bottas first corner)
ITA - Started 1st finished 2nd
JAP - Started 2nd finished 3rd
How does this fare vs Nico Rosberg?
Nico had a couple slow getaways but was generally the much better starter for 3/4 of the season. However, Rosberg lost positions from start to finish in six races, dropping a cumulative 14 places.
MON - Started 2nd finished 7th
CAN - Started 2nd finished 5th
GBR - Started 2nd finished 3rd
HUN - Started 1st finished 2nd
GER - Started 1st finished 4th
MAL - Started 2nd finished 3rd (Hit by Vettel first corner)
Let's look at it from a points lost perspective. If we assume a driver should finish where he starts, then Lewis' 5 lost places equal a potential 27 points. The 14 positions that Rosberg dropped total a loss of 46 points.
It is difficult to make a positions/points gained comparison because Hamilton started from P22 and P21 in China and Belgium, gaining 33 places in those 2 races alone. But if we look at just the races where they both started in the top three, they both advanced further up the grid on three occasions. Hamilton gaining 4 places to Rosberg's 3.
AUS - Started 1st finished 2nd
BAH - Started 1st finished 3rd (hit by Bottas first corner)
ITA - Started 1st finished 2nd
JAP - Started 2nd finished 3rd
How does this fare vs Nico Rosberg?
Nico had a couple slow getaways but was generally the much better starter for 3/4 of the season. However, Rosberg lost positions from start to finish in six races, dropping a cumulative 14 places.
MON - Started 2nd finished 7th
CAN - Started 2nd finished 5th
GBR - Started 2nd finished 3rd
HUN - Started 1st finished 2nd
GER - Started 1st finished 4th
MAL - Started 2nd finished 3rd (Hit by Vettel first corner)
Let's look at it from a points lost perspective. If we assume a driver should finish where he starts, then Lewis' 5 lost places equal a potential 27 points. The 14 positions that Rosberg dropped total a loss of 46 points.
It is difficult to make a positions/points gained comparison because Hamilton started from P22 and P21 in China and Belgium, gaining 33 places in those 2 races alone. But if we look at just the races where they both started in the top three, they both advanced further up the grid on three occasions. Hamilton gaining 4 places to Rosberg's 3.
When Nigel Mansell won the WDC in Hungary he was beaten into second place by Ayrton Senna. As they stood on the podium together Senna congratulated Mansell then said about how wonderful it felt to be standing there as World Champion. He said"Make the most of it, it is only on loan until next season".
Hamilton should have done just that.
Hamilton should have done just that.
Dare they go for Alonso?
olegg
Race Winner
Nico Rosberg retires: World champion quits Formula 1
It is very strange action.
And most likely the first reason is a psychology.
Good luck to Nico in the "outside-F1" life
It is very strange action.
And most likely the first reason is a psychology.
Good luck to Nico in the "outside-F1" life
Olivier
Race Winner
The Interweb is going crazy about Rosberg's announcement and some people say this tweet from Hamilton meant he knew about the decision and Lewis wanted to honour Nico ...
There won't be too many more posts in this thread then.
McLaren won't let Alonso go. I think Mercedes will either get one of their juniors in (doing what Red Bull would do), or there is an outside chance they choose Button (if McLaren allows). Or they try to poach Bottas, Hulkenberg, Grosjean or Perez (as these teams may not prevent a driver from getting a dream drive).
Red Bull have all 4 of their drivers under contract and won't let the 3 drivers worth anything go.
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