Head To Head Nico Rosberg vs Lewis Hamilton

[Titch]

It was a motor race. They were racing. Now I know that some drivers don't understand that concept, and prefer to drive round the circuit nose to tail, but some like to race.
It was a racing accident, lessons will be learnt. Especially when points are involved.

 

[Hamberg]

It was a motor race.

For the love oh god Titch, don't be saying things like that! Bernie may see it.

 

[Lewywo4]

Lewis seems to feel the need to go all out at the first possible opportunity, it's lead to some clumsy incidents and someone needs to tell him to be more patient. Should have won the race today were it not for him shooting himself in the foot twice, though the bad start

Absolutely.....At Silverstone he made a similar mistake, to where his attempted pass on Massa was to be made. I hope that Lauda who is known for his frank opinions, gives him much needed advice with this problem regarding patience.

 

[olegg]

Race was not good for Hamilton but not too bad.
Rosberg lost much more.

Rosberg hadn't pace not only qualifying but in the race too.
He couldn't catch both Ferrari cars.
Only troubles of Kimi and appearance of safety car gave to him the chance.

 

[olegg]

Hamilton failed on the start.
But it is better to be cautious and avoid contact at the first corner than go out of the race.
I think that Hamilton made good choice that not gone to collision with Vettel and Rosberg in the first turn.

 

[Tuscan1969]

If you count the points LH "lost" at Monaco versus the points he "gained" today it pretty much balances out..... So perhaps its just the racing gods passing a bit of bad luck to Nico (regarding the puncture) and favoring Lewis (after such a lot of mistakes to still be ahead of Nico).

 

[sushifiesta]

I don't really see it that way - both of them made mistakes and both were punished for it. In some ways you can say it was a great result for Nico to only lose 4pts to Hamilton and not the expected 7pts considering how far off the pace he was all weekend, although he was tantalisingly close to taking the championship lead. In Monaco it was a blatant mistake by the team on the pit wall that cost Lewis the race.

 

[FB]

I haven't seen the incident yet but I could imagine in Ricciardo's mind was the thought that Rosberg might settle for 3rd given the Championship position so time to go for it.

 

[Chad Stewarthill]

Les Combes could be interesting next month.

 

[FB]

Isn't this Lewis' favourite track?

 

[Dartman]

I haven't seen the incident yet but I could imagine in Ricciardo's mind was the thought that Rosberg might settle for 3rd given the Championship position so time to go for it.

In hindsight he should have done

 

[Bill Boddy]

Rosberg knew that this was a great chance to get some points back from Hamilton, he was obsessed, hence his calling up the team saying that he wanted first dibs at the next tyre change and wanted the same tyre as Hamilton would get. The team knew that what he needed was the option, who made the final choice I do not know for certain, but it was a bad one. Rosberg screwed up in what I can only describe as desperation.

 

[cider_and_toast]

So just so we a clear on this, Rosberg was clumsy for coming back across Danny's car, braking his front wing and puncturing Rosberg's left rear after Danny had tried to overtake around the outside in Hungary. Rosberg was also clumsy for braking his front wing and puncturing Hamilton's left rear tyre after Hamilton came back across while Rosberg tried to overtake around the outside at Spa last year?

 

[Il_leone]

cider_and_toast

Rosberg was clumsy in leaving no enough room for Ricciardo to turn in on Sunday....basically left him nowhere to go but he blames Ricciardo for the incident

Rosberg was definitely at fault at Spa given he was never in position to pull off the move cleanly

 

[Hamberg]

cider_and_toast

Rosberg was definitely at fault at Spa given he was never in position to pull off the move cleanly

And Ricciardo was?

 

[teabagyokel]

There is a difference. In Spa, Rosberg was fed up of Hamilton's behind-or-crash racing, and decided he wasn't going to take any more, leaving his wing in when he could have elected to relent.

In Budapest, Ricciardo was (in the broader scheme of things) an irrelevance to Rosberg - he was 130 points down in the Championship. Rosberg was not in a position of frustration with a title rival he felt was being unfair, he was in a position of opportunity with Hamilton way down the field. While in terms of the rules and regulations and the stewards, Rosberg had no responsibility to Ricciardo, Rosberg's responsibility to his own title chances, and the space that was available at a reasonably wide turn, dictate that Rosberg should have left him to it.

Obviously, Ricciardo ultimately made the clumsy move, but we're getting into that dodgy territory of dissuading drivers from attempting overtakes again - someone has to toe the line of brave and stupid if we're to get any excitement.

 

[RasputinLives]

Ricciardo has pulled off the same move at that corner on half a dozen cars both this season and last season without hitting any. Rosberg mis-judged it slightly and should have given him more room. Simple as. Its a split second thing isn't it?

I don't want penalties for anyone though thank you as the whole thing was one driver having a go at overtaking someone and another driver trying to defend that position. Personally that's what I watch Motor Racing for so lets not discourage it.

Why does there have to be someone at fault for every incident?

 

[cider_and_toast]

Because it's Hamilton and Rosberg?

For what it's worth, I hate these stupid penalties as well. Most collisions in F1 are avoidable in one way or another but deliberate are the only ones that should be hammered.

 

[Brogan]

I presume the stewards thought Hamilton's move was deliberate then...
Either that or they must have some other (unknown, unclear) criteria for awarding/not awarding penalties.

 

[cider_and_toast]

Search me. I have no idea why Hamilton got a penalty. For me, once he locked up there was nothing else he could do. I'm pretty sure he would have avoided it if he could. Causing an avoidable accident suggests that an F1 driver doesn't mind crashing.