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Izumi

Banned
Izumi this all depends on vettel & leclerc. because vettel has the talent. if it wasnt for his brain fade in Singapore 17 & Monza 18 (to be fair teams brain fade suzuka 18) we could easily be talking about vettel as a 5 or 6 time world champion not Lewis & this could be inspiration to push on. but if leclerc gets the beating of him in opening races, which is potentially possible as he is quality. ive been nothing but continually impressed for 2 years ive watched him. then you can see vettel looking for a way out to mercedes in 2021 not 2020.

Because it just works Personally & business wise. because hamilton expressed his desire for driving for ferrari at some point, Ferrari must admire his talent as especially 2018 he not the car was factor for championship also mercedes would love german of vettel talent to drive for them. so could see a 2021 partnership of vettel with Ocon or Russell
Truth to be said, I am under impression that Hamilton stated in the past that he has no desire ever to sit in "that red" car, and he is happy where he is. Maybe relevant Memo announcing change is somewhere unopened in my Mail box.
 

Dartman

Podium Finisher
He may be a multiple WDC but not in a Ferrari and he's had a few goes at it in a Ferrari and not succeeded, I would suggest that if Leclerc starts amassing more points that Vettel then the priority will change quickly, and it only may take two races
 

Izumi

Banned
If memory serves me, it was always like that. Once I remember over winter next to a fireplace an interview in form of quiet conversation with J. Todt was about his tenure with Ferrari, and who is or isn't number 1 driver. His explanation was plausible to my ears. Drivers are free to race initially, he didn't specify how many races, but as season progresses, a driver with greater chance to reach WDC, begins to get more attention and some minor privileges (new parts, etc.). Accumulated points was not enough. Situational analysis has to be conducted, and decision made how much driver is accountable for results on the track.

Over years perhaps some fans didn't know that, others know about it but chose to ignore it. I fall into a group who knew this for quite a while, and chose to believe that this strategy remains in place even today, although Arri might have violated this tradition to small extend last year. From friendship he wanted Kimi to win Monza as good bye present. Needles to say it didn't go well with Vettel.
 
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F1Brits_90

Race Winner
RasputinLives in both of them incidents he was thinking far too short term & not enough long term. in Singapore in 1 off race or title decider I would have probally agreed. it was a move he had to make to keep the lead of the grand prix & just became unlucky of circumstance. but vettel had no need to make such drastic move he was on pole his rival was in a struggling 5th he was on verge of turning around a 3pt deficit to a 12 pt advantage with 6 races to go. even I could see as clear as day before it had started raining. it was of upmost importance that vettel got through the 1st corner clean, even if it meant short term pain in 2nd. but no he was too impatient & broke the famous racing rule you cant win it at the 1st corner but you can certainty lose it & after that race where vettel should've had a 12pt lead, becoming a favourite to win a 5th title Ferrari 1st in a decade. Ferrari faced a 28pts gap & it all steadily unravelled to point where lewis was able to coast with 3 races to spare

same in Italy Ferrari 1-2 on their home turf, just easily beaten Mercedes last time out, momentum was with Ferrari it was obvious that he wouldve had the race pace to win that race & then with momentum they go into Singapore 1 of their favourite track with the chance to go level at the very least with victory with lewis in championship with just 6 races remaining but no again his impatience shone through. I have to have it on the 1st lap even though there are 52 laps & 1 or 2 pit stops left. does a ridiculous move that was never going to work
 

F1Brits_90

Race Winner
Hindsight often brings wisdom.
but it wasnt hindsight. i said on the Saturday that verstappen can stick 1 up the inside on race day. because if vettel has any sense he will jump out of the way

there are so many times that vettel impatience has cost him & blame verstappen rightly for the same issues 1st 6 races of 2018 but forgive vettel for same issues
 
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RasputinLives

Doesn't look a bit like Jesus
Contributor
In the incident you are taking about he would not have even seen Verstappen. He would have just seen Kimi. So he pulled across to prevent Kimi going down the inside. He would have had no idea Verstappen was the other side of Kimi and therefore Kimi wouldn't have been able to move over. F1 car mirrors don't show hellicopter views. He assesses the situation off the start line and did what most drivers usually do in that situation. 99 time out of a hundred he would have been right. That's not brain fade that's just odds not being in his favour.
 
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Izumi

Banned
Fans voted SF90 most beautiful from all new racers on display. Winning vote won by slight margin, but nonetheless red car gets the nod. What's interesting, Mr. Binotto was excusing matte color as weight saving strategy (glossy thingy adds weight to the car), so they didn't do it. Looks like Maranello boys were really at it over winter. Reminds me of Lexus being assembled with bolts that have core removed, again, as weight saving process. I do not care much about color, but I am pleased and impressed over that kind of attention to the detail.
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Izumi

Banned
Can a pot of paint really make that much difference?
Ferrari's Binotto sees 'heavier' 2019 cars 1.5s slower

"Eliminating the shiny element gives us a few hundred grammes," he revealed. "[It] may not sound like much, but when you push everything to the limit even this has an effect."

Ferrari is by no means the first to make this sort of change to their car's design in pursuit of saving a few hundredths of a second. Red Bull likewise moved to a matte finish paint in 2016.
 
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FB

Not my cup of cake
Valued Member
I thought the point of the matte paintwork was all about airflow not weight saving.
 

Olivier

Race Winner

Izumi

Banned
DATE: 2019-02-18 CET: 06:16
Vettel "will run" first day (and sleeping in cockpit), Leclerc next day, which is better, I think. There is usually very little action on Monday, as systems have to be tested, etc. This was a good job for junior, however as it happened, and I do not want to keep score, but for start - advantage Leclrec.
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Izumi

Banned
DATE: 2019-03-01 CET: 08:05
Why Sebastian Vettel at last has Red Bull at Ferrari
Pressure, real or perceived, is ON!

Luckily Seb is not usually reading "news" about himself, however Ferrari fans have a lot to cheer for going into opening round. Rivals are probably unmoved, hoping Mercedes will tighten "screws" shortly. Well, this year its not just Sebastian and the "other one". Le Clerc, Verstappen and maybe several others cannot be discarded either. Its going to be tight in the first corner.
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gethinceri

Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan.
Contributor
I thought the point of the matte paintwork was all about airflow not weight saving.
Our dear friend Meph had a very interesting hypothesis about matt surfaces and benefits to airflow, he got all scientific on it and it really did make a lot of sense as he'd done some very detailed research.
 
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