Grand Prix 2015 Italian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Catch it while you can folks otherwise you could be watching the last but one Italian GP from the Monza circuit. Bernie will be sitting down with the GP organisors after the race to discuss a new contract post 2016 and at the moment has said he is not sure if there will be a race here in 2017. The track itself openend in 1922 and since 1950 has held every single Italian GP with the exception of 1980 when it was held at Imola. Since it's a track with so little F1 history behind it, it's no wonder it's in danger of not being around much longer. (sarcasm !!). Bernie has stated he is not going to offer the track a cut price deal and expects it to pay the going rate to host a race.

The layout of the track is of course most famous for it's banked circuit which, despite it being hugely dangerous, would make for an interesting race if it was brought back into use. Since that is extremely unlikely we'll content oursevles with a layout that has remained virtually the same with the exception of a few chicane based tweeks here and there, since the mid 60's.

Known as a breaker of gearboxes and with the engines required to run at full throttle over about 80 percent of the lap, a reliable and powerful engine is an absolute requirement here. So, with a Mercedes one-two the only likely result the big question will be who else will round out the podium?

You would imagine that, for the reasons stated above, it would have to be one of the other Mercedes powered cars. Williams, Force India and Lotus had mixed fortunes in Spa but will all be eyeing that third step. Of course, with Ferrari at their home race and the Italian 'Tifosi' out in full voice there will be an added urge to compete but is that Ferrari engine powerful enough at this track?

McLaren have become the new Caterham in terms of promised upgrades not doing what they are claimed to do. In an Autosport piece in the run up to Spa we were cheerfully informed that the Honda upgrades would put them on a par in terms of power with Ferrari. Sadly it would seem they meant the 2014 powered Manor Ferrari and not the current Ferrari GP car.

With the remaining Reanult and Ferrari powered teams almost certainly fighting it out for the lower end of the top 10 it's really hard to see where the entertainment is going to come from. Let's just hope there is some.
 
It would be absurd if Hamilton had penalty:
technical report was 5 minutes after start and
where were stewards not only up to first pit
but up to finish of the race?
 
But the most surprising statements of the head Williams.
And this is after the circus that eliminated his team in the previous race,
sending Bottas to the race on wheels of different types.
Certainly not to tell them about the problems of security in the current situation
 
Vettel never inherits wins. So I didn't think anyone would gift him one now. I think there is only 1 race he's ever inherited, as opposed to 10 or something races in which he had technical issues while he was leading the race.
 
A comprehensive write up on the tyre farce: Italian GP: F1's tyre controversy. Know the whole story

In what appears to be a case of miscommunication, the FIA had not been informed that Pirelli usually accepts the earlier measurement – with the tyres fully heated in their still connected blankets – as its definitive official "starting pressure."

When Bauer did his extra checks, it was at a stage when Pirelli had already accepted the Mercedes tyres as "legal", while knowing that, with the blankets disconnected, the temperature and pressure could only drop.
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The Stewards also accepted that once the cars started moving, the tyres heated up again, and the pressures went up. Indeed, data from the cars showed that throughout the race the Mercedes tyres stayed well above the minimum requirement, and the FIA was satisfied by that.
 
I also noted grumblings from some of the teams, Williams in particular.

I'm not sure why though - Mercedes clearly followed the procedures set out by Pirelli and they were cleared by the FIA of any wrongdoing.
 
I have more sympathy for Evans as the likelihood is the same thing happened with his tyres but his team hadn't got the clout with the stewards to make sure it was clarified.

It is a different formula though.
 
as i put above even the fact its up for discussion makes me angry because we should be paying monza not the other way around as they are that important. the fa in football have their faults but they paid £800m to rebuild wembley because they knew how important it was they couldn't afford lose the history & heritage of wembley. you cannot buy history if ever 1 picture proved a picture about how great f1 can be & why we should never lose monza was the view from podium on sunday.
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Another reason why we should keep Monza is the fact that it's the only TRULY super-fast circuit left on the calendar...

very true, same way i wasnt too upset there was no german race this year because they ruined hockenheim in 2002 when the decided the forest section were unsafe
 
I know, but I will never forget Emanuele Pirro holding up Thierry Boutsen in Adelaide in 1989 (when being lapped) letting Nannini get close to the Williams car. I suppose you could argue Raikkonen was "defending his position",
 
In Bahrain, Ferrari used Vettel to further Raikkonen's position. It happens. And at this point, I don't think Ferrari cares much about which one is ahead. But it's better for them if they are both right in the middle of it with Mercedes drivers. That's how they got the 2nd in Bahrain. Otherwise Vettel would be the one getting the tow from Raikkonen in Monza.
 
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