Grand Prix 2012 European Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Valencia........ :bored:

Even Abu Dhabi and Bahrain are more exciting in comparison. Valencia is the only grand prix on the calendar that I genuinley do not look forward to. It's dull, boring and hasn't provided an interesting race at all since its inception on the F1 calendar in 2008. Thankfully it won't be a regular feature in the future as it will be alternating with Barcelona in the future.

Going into the Grand Prix Lewis Hamilton is back as the Championship leader after becoming the 7th driver to win in 7 races with victory in the Canadian Grand Prix. After missing out on the podium in recent races he was back with vengeance after fighting back from starting second and being third with 10 laps to go but thanks to fresher tyres he made easy work of Vettel and Alonso in the latter laps who fell away after a gamble to one stop failed. In the end Roman Grosjean and Sergio Perez finished on the podium and it is testament to the unpredictably of 2012 that it wasn't the first time either of them have been on the podium this season.

From race to race no team has been consistently at the very front, in Spain it was Williams, in Monaco it was Red Bull and in Canada it was McLaren. Both Ferrari and Lotus have probably been the most consistent package over recent weeks but not enough to win races with podium places the highest they can manage, but considering the start to the season Ferrari made, that probably isn't a bad thing and Alonso is only 2 points off the championship leader with world champion Vettel just one point behind in third.

It's a complete reversal of 2011 as this time last year Hamilton left Canada with a world of problems after a DNF which involved a collision with team mate Button who went on to win one of the best races of his career passing Vettel on the last lap. But 12 months later Hamilton won the race with Button finishing a lapped 16th. What's worse for the 2009 champion is that was on merit as well and not down to any car failures or pit problems, it marks a horrid fall from grace after winning the opening race in Melbourne and an early run of podiums but now he is struggling to even get into Q3 and convert that into points finishes. Button appears clueless as to where the problem lies and it may not be a short term fix as the car isn't slow as Hamilton is currently proving. It could be already over as far as Button's title hopes are concerned as he is currently 43 points behind Hamilton and has roughly half the points total.

It is also interesting to note that Button was further behind the leader last season and he was second in the championship, while at the moment he lies in 8th behind both Lotus drivers who are the only front running drivers yet to win a race (excluding Schumacher) and having come close in Bahrain and Spain they will want to be the next winners and take the total to 8 winners in 8 races and with both Raikkonen and Grosjean closely matched it's hard to say who is the more likely. But it's Grosjean's form which is the most surprising, a lot of people questioned why he was given the driver role given the way he was outperformed in 2009 and a lot of people said he would be outraced by the returning Finn, but after 7 races he is only 2 points behind and that is despite several first lap incidents where he has been the innocent part in some cases but not others (Malaysia). With the pendulum swinging from race to race it is hard to predict who will have the upper hand in the Spanish heat.

For Galahad's brilliant circuit write up - http://cliptheapex.com/pages/valencia-street-circuit/
 
It was a busy few corners with many cars in close proximity at a high pressure moment so any penalty would be harsh, but we'll see..
Ted Kravitz on Twitter
If Hamilton gets another penalty, Rosberg should get one for holding up Maldonado
 
I'm guessing this will be a reprimand, and nothing else.... However, you can never quite predict these outcomes....

Jos the Boss - the argument for Rosberg is that Hamilton was hanging about, which caused Rosberg's lap to be spoilt, as he wasn't able to make his own gap.... However, that's a little bit of a tenuous argument.
 
Ted Kravitz on Twitter and BBC editor Andrew Benson, I would copy and paste it but I just logged out, check out Josh's link and scroll up a bit!
 
Rosberg isn't happy... It appears friendships don't last in this sport wheen two pals get involved in too many incidents with each other...
 
this is good news,i thought for sure he'd be punished tho,considering how harsh his punishment was last time in spain.

i hope the lewis v rosberg beef doesnt become lewis v massa part 2 lol
 
this is good news,i thought for sure he'd be punished tho,considering how harsh his punishment was last time in spain.

i hope the lewis v rosberg beef doesnt become lewis v massa part 2 lol



Their relationship I believe, goes back too far to have that kind of problem develop:nah:
 
Actually my the impression I get is that their relationship has been a bit frosty for quite a while, more on Nico's part than Hamilton's,, and I've got a sneaking feeling it dates from the end of the 2009 season when Rosberg was competing for a McLaren seat with Button. There was that press conference in one of the GP at the end of 2009 when Rosberg joked Lewis didn't seem particularly enthusiastic when asked about potentially having Nico as a team-mate.
Maybe he wasn't joking after all...
 
Ok I haven't done this in a while but, off the line Grosjean will get jumped by Raikkonen but into Turn 1, the corner that is flat out, Grosjean will oversteer and take them both out which will collect the 2 force india's, Kobayashi and Alonso forcing the safety car, Vettel leads at the end of lap 1, Hamilton is still second, Maldonado loses out to Grosjean but stayed clear of the accident and is P3, Rosberg P4, Schumacher catches Button napping after he runs wide due to front locking and gets up to P5, Massa P6 and Button P7, Kovalainen makes a lightning start making up 2 places and at the SC is P10. When the SC comes in, Vettel makes a hash of the restart and is passed by Hamilton who starts pulling away, Massa tries out braking Schumi but T-bones Rosberg who gets away with slight front wing damage, but pits at the right time and comes out in P5 behind Schumi. Vettel makes a mistake and loses his front wing and gets a puncture and falls to P7, fast forward a lot of interesting, overtaking filled laps and Hamilton wins from Schumi who has a puncture across the line, Rosberg is P3, Massa P4 and Perez P5, Kovalainen just misses out on a point by a second and finishes 12th with Senna ahead of him! We also all enjoy an interesting Valencian GP!
 
How come Maldonado who was right behind Rosberg on that same final run posted a time to go P3..hmmmmmmm

rosbergs getting desperate,trying to blame others for his own failure.
 
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