Grand Prix 2012 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Doesn't time fly! The summer break is approaching the end and after an astonishing Olympics which gripped a nation, the attention now turns across the Channel to see if another Brit can continue his push for glory. Victory in Hungary saw Lewis Hamilton reignite his stuttering season and closed (however small) the gap to Alonso to just over 40 points. The update package introduced in Germany have thrown McLaren back to the front again and just in time as any longer and Hamilton would have been out of the title battle just like his team-mate has been after a nightmare summer for Button. Hamilton has generally gone well at Spa with 1 win, a third place and a fourth. Although depending on your viewpoint it should be 2 wins and a fourth after the 2008 mess.

Although the true king of Spa has returned to the throne in the Lotus and with wins in 2004,2005,2007 and 2009 (close to winning in 2008 as well) not many would bet against the Iceman taking his first victory of the season at his favourite track. The Lotus has been in good form in recent races and a second and third in Hungary proved that where they pushed Hamilton from lights to flag but couldn't quite get past the McLaren driver.

Belgium is famous for it's 4 seasons in a hour in all different parts of the track weather and no doubt if rain is about that plays into the hands of the Championship leader Alonso as the Ferrari is the quickest car in the wet but possibly only the 4th quickest car in the dry, that was evident at Hungary anyway, whether that translates to Spa it is unknown, however Ferrari have traditionally been quick at Spa having won more times there (16) than anyone else so they/Alonso will be in the mix on race day, well let's face it, Massa won't be.

The big unknown here is Red Bull, having had to make several changes to their car to stop make sure it is legal and it has affected performance in recent races and they weren't in the hunt in Hungary. Indeed, Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel is on the longest winless streak since he joined Red Bull in 2009 having not won since Bahrain in April and the young German is currently a few points behind Mark Webber who has had somewhat of a resurgance this year having won at Monaco and Silverstone to become the leading chase driver in the Championship behind Alonso. No doubt Red Bull will be keen to avoid the infighting that nearly cost them the 2010 Championship and to ensure that they don't fall foul of any more FIA regulations as any more problems could see them slip behind Hamilton and possibly even Raikkonen.

Raikkonen is viewed by many as the dark horse for the Championship. He's only a few points behind Hamilton despite having yet to win a race this season which is a testament to his consistency, something which so nearly got him the 2003 title despite only winning one race all year (Malaysia). He's closed down bigger gaps in the past (2007) so he could play a major part in the Championship and if he doesn't ultimately end up in the mix at the end of the season, he'll certainly play a part in terms of taking points off other drivers as he will want to be in contention for podiums and wins as the first win has eluded him so far. He's certainly having a very successful comeback so far and has shown that the 2 years he's had out hasn't affected him whatsoever.

For Galahad 's circuit write up - http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
I think they've been caught up also in that Grosjean has had 7 race start incidents and he needs a very serious penalty to get him to stop and think. The effects highlighted just what carnage happens at that point in a race and better he is treated harshly now than it happening again and next time folk aren't so lucky.
 
I think the ban for Grosjean is incredibly harsh. Yes, it was stupid and careless, but a ten-place penalty would have been sufficient, considering the relative severity of penalties handed out this season. Also, the effect of the incident was far more pronounced and serious than the cause, so from that respect Grosjean was unlucky. Does anyone remember Japan 2010, where Petrov did something similar to Hulkenburg? The penalty given to Petrov was nowhere near as severe as the one today considering the similarities of the incidents. It seems that the stewards are penalising based on the effects of incidents, rather than the causes. At Suzuka last year, when Vettel 'chopped' Button at the start, some quick thinking from Button ensured that (in my opinion) Vettel didn't recieve a penalty, yet the move from Vettel was the same. One last example, Hungary 2010. Schumacher forced Barrichello against the wall, very dangerous driving, yet as there was no effect the penalty wasn't as severe as Grosjean's despite more dangerous driving.
Yes, Grosjean was stupid and deserves a grid drop or something similar. But we have to remember that this is the start of the race, where the drivers are close together and aiming to improve their position. But, sadly, the stewards have been caught up in the effect of the incident, by giving a harsh penalty, when they should be focussing on the incident independently (to the pile-up at the first corner).

I see your point but wouldn't they be a little naive to solely focus on the cause of the accident and not the effect? I believe in every incident the stewards look at they look at the effect of what happened because crashing your own car has different consequences than driving into someone else and therefore should get treated differently. The fact is also that whilst I believe they should treat each incident independently as much as possible, it is impossible to deny that Grosjean has made a habit of these sorts of incidents and this makes a strong statement from the stewards that this is unacceptable and puts others lives in potential danger. Other drivers will now hopefully gain even more respect for each other at the start and realise that even though they are only going at relatively slow speed, dangerous accidents can still occur.
 
The worst thing that can happen to a race driver is that he is banned from racing - it is a sanction that should be used sparingly and with a due degree of deliberation.

I believe Grosjean has been lucky that it is only a one race ban - it may be a direct result from today's 'exuberance' or a cumulative effect, either way he should be ashamed.
 
I suspect the stewards took previous form into account for both Grosgean & Maldonado (wasn't Maldonado on his third strike re penalties?).
I also don't like the inference that Championship contenders are somehow more valuable than the mid/tail-enders. Any accident that endangers life, no matter which drivers are involved, should be treated seriously.
It's a testament to car safety now that no-one was killed/seriously injured today.
On the flip side the fact that cars are so safe nowadays means drivers are taking unacceptable risks, this isn't just about Grosgean & Maldonado but driving standards in general have been inversely proportional to car safety.
Racing incident happen but more & more of these seem to be the result of rashness or carelessness.
 
If Hamilton had moved over onto the grass to avoid Grosgean it would have still been wet from the earlier rain & then Hamilton would've lost car control & crashed into Romain. Then everyone would be slating Lewis for a rash move and he'd probably be facing a grid penalty in Monza instead.
On a lighter note perhaps there should be a new category of penalty - 'a driver must start beside Grosgean or Maldonado' depending on the offence :snigger:
 
Caterham fined 10,000 Euros for Kovalainen's unsafe release. Schumacher and Webber's incidents will not be investigated any further.

Di Resta just tweeted and said he had no KER'S all afternoon, so good drive from him today to get a point.
 
That sounds like 'oh, it's an HRT, so it doesn't matter, we'll only fine you'. He crashed into him for goodness sake!!
 
Actually, what was going on with Kovalainen today? He span out at least twice in the race...

Also, was the Maldonado/Glock incident actually shown? All I remember seeing is Maldonado retiring, and I don't recall Glock having any damage or anything?
 
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