Things ... Welcome to the Future (2018 - 2019 Silly Season)

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by Rutherford, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Big wows. Did not see Kimi staying to go to a smaller team. I'm a bit shocked.
     
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  3. I'm shocked, I really like Leclerc but I think that he's too young for Ferrari (not in terms of driving but personality wise, the media will watch every step he takes and if things don't go well from day one will soon turn critical), with respect to Kimi I just can't quite understand why he's moving to Sauber other than $$$ (and being cynical I get the feeling that he was offered the deal with Sauber only to keep him happy for the last few races of the season and to try and avoid what happened at Monza)
     
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  4. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Yeah I can't see how it's going to be productive for anyone. Maybe it's Ferrari's fall back in case Leclerc tanks?

    So just Haas, Torro Rosso and Williams to go then. Torro Rosso won't be until at least after F3 finishes, Haas will probably stick with what they have and I imagine Williams will be Sirotkin with either Russell or Ocon.
     
  5. Izumi

    Izumi Test Driver

    Now they have to shield 2019 vehicle development from Kimi. There is so much we don't know, and are thirsty to know.
     
  6. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    As Sauber are pretty much a Ferrari feeder team I doubt they'll shield development. Also I doubt Kimi will care enough to make note of it.
     
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  7. Izumi

    Izumi Test Driver

    Publius Cornelius Scipio Agree, pressure on young Monégasque will be immense, but just take a minute and imagine in what kind of trouble Arrivabene is potentially going to be, if media begin question strategy choices, and decide that Leclerc is not treated well. I think Mauricio is facing potentially difficult life in paddock, especially should Charles start complaining.
     
  8. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    Not surprising. It's been a rumour in the paddock for quite some time. I'm interested in seeing how well Raikkonen does next to Ericsson, and how Leclerc compares to Vettel.
     
  9. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    The pressure on Vettel will be immense too, if he wants to maintain his status in the team. He's four time WC, but as of late he has been making too many mistakes and his contract is coming to an end next year. How will he deal with an inter-team battle and an external one against Hamilton. He truly will face three opponents, if Leclerc can keep up.
     
  10. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Agreed Clay, next season is huge for Vettel. Another year goes by without a championship (maybe), he's not getting any younger and it doesn't seem that he's getting any better. But whether his bad run continues remains to be seen. It could be just more of the same, with Vettel outclassing his opponent but not getting the results to beat Hammy.
     
  11. Ruslan

    Ruslan Rookie

    Scenario, post-driver swap:

    Confirmed:
    1. Mercedes (Hamilton, Bottas)
    2. Ferrari (Vettel, Leclerc)
    3. Red Bull (Verstappen, Gasly)
    4. Renault (Hulkenberg, Ricciardo)
    5. McLaren (Sainz, Norris)
    6. Sauber (Raikkonen)

    Pretty certain:
    1. Force India (Perez, Stroll)
    2. Ericson at Sauber
    3. Sirotkin at Williams

    Available seats:
    1. Haas #1 seat: Ocon? or Grosjean?
    2. Haas #2 seat: Magnussen? (option for 2019, has not been exercised yet)
    3. Williams #1 seat: Another paying Russian driver?, Kubica?, Ocon?
    4. Toro Rosso #1: Hartley or someone in the Red Bull system?, Kvyat?
    5. Toro Rosso #2: Ticktum?, Buemi?

    Adrift:
    1. Ocon
    2. Grosjean?

    Not seated:
    1. Giovinazzi
    2. Many others

    Lost to F1:
    1. Alonso

    Anyhow, the Leclerc/Raikkonen swap was, I gather, at the expense of Giovanazzi. There are still three seats open for Ocon, Grosjean, Magnussen, Kubica, etc. So....we shall see how it sorts itself out.
     
  12. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    I heard ocon & kubica at Williams next season. Williams is a shocker of a car but it better than nothing. I geninuely havent a clue at toro rosso as the youngsters look not likely til 2020

    Also saw this on twitter & i can really see this happening. As i can 2007 saga all over again
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  13. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Leclerc won’t beat Vettel but Vettel will go to Ferrari
     
  14. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    Isn't Vettel already at Ferrari?
     
  15. Ruslan

    Ruslan Rookie

    Doesn't Williams need paying drivers to cover their budget shortfall? Granted Kubica is paying ( I remember the figure of $8 million) but I gather Sirotkin paid more ($14 million comes to mind). How much is Ocon/Mercedes going to pay?
     
  16. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Williams links with SMP Racing (the name has suddenly appeared very prominently on the car) suggests they will have at least one Russian driver. Markalov is an outside bet but I'd be stunned if Sirotkin doesn't get a second year.
     
  17. they should make him a proper seat, maybe he'll manage to drive the car for the whole duration of a race
     
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  18. Izumi

    Izumi Test Driver

    Looks like Frédéric Vasseur is thinking about some housecleaning, and drivers are not immune invitation to leave. One must love this guy. I do. Loosing Leclerc was a strategical call, but hiring potentially Giovinazzi would go far in pleasing Ferrari's (and Italy).
     
  19. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    I believe it could be the same arrangement as bottas, with free engines for ocon
     
  20. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Yes Publius Cornelius Scipio he has has the BACKEND of luck on that front. A real BUMmer for him.
     
  21. Izumi

    Izumi Test Driver

    Does Ocon wants to go to Williams? Rumor has it that he is not interested. Admittedly people are capable to change their minds even in last minute.
     

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