The 2012 Season
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Maybe an explicit rule like the SC delta time would help because the Stewards clearly haven't a clue about how to enforce the rules under yellow flags and their motto must be when in doubt amputate.
When they showed footage of Todt in the Ferrari garage with Montezemolo during quali, I thought it looked a bit fishy and he (Todt that is) appeared a bit partisan. As bad as Max was, he restricted his networking to the grid. I feel a bit sorry for Redbull because the FIA and Charlie are regulating them very hard and not just during races but also with their technical development to ensure that they don't run away with the championship this time around. However if Vettel repeats the sort of pace he was showed at Valencia before retiring they will have to tighten up scrutineering again and deploy more safety cars for equal measure.
The 2012 Race Hub has been updated: http://cliptheapex.com/pages/2012-standings/
It's looking good for Red Bull, Ferrari and Lotus.
Not so good for McLaren.
It's looking good for Red Bull, Ferrari and Lotus.
Not so good for McLaren.
There has been a lot of discussion regarding penalties, so here's the complete list to date for the 2012 season:
[box=400]Bruno Senna was given a drive through penalty for causing a collision with Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic qualified 24th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Charles Pic was fined €800 for speeding in the pit lane in FP2
Charles Pic was given a drive through penalty for ignoring blue flags
Felipe Massa was given a drive through penalty for failing to slow for yellow flags
Heikki Kovalainen was given a five place grid drop penalty for overtaking under the safety car at the Australian GP
Jean-Éric Vergne qualified 16th but was given a 10 place grid drop and fined €25,000 for causing a collision with Heikki Kovalainen at the European Grand Prix
Jean-Eric Vergne was given a drive through penalty for speeding in the pit lane
Jean-Eric Vergne was reprimanded for not stopping at the weighbridge after Q1
Kamui Kobayashi qualified 12th but was given a five place grid drop for causing a collision with Felipe Massa at the European Grand Prix
Kamui Kobayashi was fined €25,000 for an unsafe pit stop
Kamui Kobayashi was reprimanded for impeding Nico Hulkenberg during Q1
Kimi Raikkonen qualified 5th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Kimi Raikkonen was fined €2,500 for crossing the white line when entering the pit lane during FP1
Lewis Hamilton qualified 2nd but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Lewis Hamilton qualified in pole position but was excluded from qualifying due to stopping on the circuit due to a lack of fuel. He started from 24th position
Michael Schumacher qualified 18th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Michael Schumacher qualified 1st but was given a 5 place grid drop penalty for causing a collision at the Spanish GP with Bruno Senna
Michael Schumacher was reprimanded for impeding Lewis Hamilton in FP3
Narain Karthikeyan was given a drive through penalty for speeding in the pit lane
Narain Karthikeyan was given a drive through penalty which was converted to a 20 second time penalty after the race for causing a collision with Sebastian Vettel
Narain Karthikeyan was reprimanded for impeding Fernando Alonso in Q1
Nico Hulkenberg qualified 9th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Nico Hulkenberg was fined €7,200 for speeding in the pit lane in FP3
Nico Hulkenberg was reprimanded for impeding Sergio Perez in FP3
Pastor Maldonado finished 10th but was given a 20 second time penalty for causing a collision with Lewis Hamilton
Pastor Maldonado qualified 17th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Pastor Maldonado qualified 17th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Pastor Maldonado qualified 9th but was given a 10 place grid drop penalty for causing a collision with Sergio Perez in FP3
Pastor Maldonado qualified 9th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Pastor Maldonado was fined €1,400 for speeding in the pit lane in FP3
Pastor Maldonado was reprimanded and fined €10,000 for causing a collision
Pastor Maldonado was reprimanded for blocking in Q1
Pedro de la Rosa was given a drive through penalty for team personnel being on the grid at the restart
Pedro de la Rosa was reprimanded for blocking in Q1
Pedro de la Rosa was reprimanded for impeding Heikki Kovalainen in Q1
Sebastian Vettel was given a drive through penalty for failing to slow for yellow flags
Sebastian Vettel was reprimanded for colliding with Bruno Senna in FP1
Sergio Perez was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Sergio Pérez qualified 17th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Sergio Perez was given a drive through penalty for a late pit entry, impeding Kimi Raikkonen in the process
Mercedes were fined €5,000 for an unsafe release after failing to tighten the front right wheel on Michael Schumacher's car
Sauber were fined €5,000 due to car 15 not staying below the maximum time set by the FIA between the Safety Car Line after the Pit Exit and the Safety Car Line before the Pit Entry, at the end of Q2[/quote]
[box=400]Bruno Senna was given a drive through penalty for causing a collision with Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic qualified 24th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Charles Pic was fined €800 for speeding in the pit lane in FP2
Charles Pic was given a drive through penalty for ignoring blue flags
Felipe Massa was given a drive through penalty for failing to slow for yellow flags
Heikki Kovalainen was given a five place grid drop penalty for overtaking under the safety car at the Australian GP
Jean-Éric Vergne qualified 16th but was given a 10 place grid drop and fined €25,000 for causing a collision with Heikki Kovalainen at the European Grand Prix
Jean-Eric Vergne was given a drive through penalty for speeding in the pit lane
Jean-Eric Vergne was reprimanded for not stopping at the weighbridge after Q1
Kamui Kobayashi qualified 12th but was given a five place grid drop for causing a collision with Felipe Massa at the European Grand Prix
Kamui Kobayashi was fined €25,000 for an unsafe pit stop
Kamui Kobayashi was reprimanded for impeding Nico Hulkenberg during Q1
Kimi Raikkonen qualified 5th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Kimi Raikkonen was fined €2,500 for crossing the white line when entering the pit lane during FP1
Lewis Hamilton qualified 2nd but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Lewis Hamilton qualified in pole position but was excluded from qualifying due to stopping on the circuit due to a lack of fuel. He started from 24th position
Michael Schumacher qualified 18th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Michael Schumacher qualified 1st but was given a 5 place grid drop penalty for causing a collision at the Spanish GP with Bruno Senna
Michael Schumacher was reprimanded for impeding Lewis Hamilton in FP3
Narain Karthikeyan was given a drive through penalty for speeding in the pit lane
Narain Karthikeyan was given a drive through penalty which was converted to a 20 second time penalty after the race for causing a collision with Sebastian Vettel
Narain Karthikeyan was reprimanded for impeding Fernando Alonso in Q1
Nico Hulkenberg qualified 9th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Nico Hulkenberg was fined €7,200 for speeding in the pit lane in FP3
Nico Hulkenberg was reprimanded for impeding Sergio Perez in FP3
Pastor Maldonado finished 10th but was given a 20 second time penalty for causing a collision with Lewis Hamilton
Pastor Maldonado qualified 17th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Pastor Maldonado qualified 17th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Pastor Maldonado qualified 9th but was given a 10 place grid drop penalty for causing a collision with Sergio Perez in FP3
Pastor Maldonado qualified 9th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Pastor Maldonado was fined €1,400 for speeding in the pit lane in FP3
Pastor Maldonado was reprimanded and fined €10,000 for causing a collision
Pastor Maldonado was reprimanded for blocking in Q1
Pedro de la Rosa was given a drive through penalty for team personnel being on the grid at the restart
Pedro de la Rosa was reprimanded for blocking in Q1
Pedro de la Rosa was reprimanded for impeding Heikki Kovalainen in Q1
Sebastian Vettel was given a drive through penalty for failing to slow for yellow flags
Sebastian Vettel was reprimanded for colliding with Bruno Senna in FP1
Sergio Perez was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Sergio Pérez qualified 17th but was given a five place grid drop penalty due to a gearbox change
Sergio Perez was given a drive through penalty for a late pit entry, impeding Kimi Raikkonen in the process
Mercedes were fined €5,000 for an unsafe release after failing to tighten the front right wheel on Michael Schumacher's car
Sauber were fined €5,000 due to car 15 not staying below the maximum time set by the FIA between the Safety Car Line after the Pit Exit and the Safety Car Line before the Pit Entry, at the end of Q2[/quote]
Josh
Champion Elect
DRS under yellows is now definitely banned: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101112
RickD
Pole Sitter
Brundle said about it on Sky..
I really can't even believe they needed a clarification on this. It's basically an admission that they let Schumacher get away with it in Valencia.
The season could yet swing towards other teams and drivers - Pirelli have made a new hard compound tyre available for testing this weekend at the German GP and it will be up to the teams to decide whether they want to use it or not later in the season.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/281468/pirelli-teams-will-decide-over-changed-compound/
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/281468/pirelli-teams-will-decide-over-changed-compound/
Given that they have never raced on the Pirelli's at "little Hockenheim" it would be hard to gauge how many takers will choose to not run on their weekend compounds during FP's...
Kamui-FastestChefInTheWorld
Points Scorer
I'm sure they'll run the 2011 Pirellis and once they've finished the data for them, they'll switch to the 2012 ones 
WCC points by Contribution:
New hards not coming back until Japan, because the rain stopped them getting any data this weekend. Good job it never rains at Suzuka, eh?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101328
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101328
It's a good job the Ferrari is a dog otherwise Alonso would be romping away.
Oh wait...http://cliptheapex.com/pages/2012-standings/
Oh wait...http://cliptheapex.com/pages/2012-standings/
Webber needs to take an average of 3.4 points out of Alonso in each race from now on to win the title:
Rosberg down are already in the situation where winning all 10 races with Alonso second would not be enough.
Rosberg down are already in the situation where winning all 10 races with Alonso second would not be enough.
What an unusual sequence of events. 
Jo Bauer, the FIA's technical delegate, states in no uncertain terms that the engine mapping of the Red Bull Renault engine is not in accordance with the regulations. Derek Warwick and his band of Stewards then decide that they're satisfied with Renault's explanation on why this is the case. Ross Brawn states that it wont be the end of the discussion.
One day later, it's the end of discussion.
EDIT - I guess it's not.
Jo Bauer, the FIA's technical delegate, states in no uncertain terms that the engine mapping of the Red Bull Renault engine is not in accordance with the regulations. Derek Warwick and his band of Stewards then decide that they're satisfied with Renault's explanation on why this is the case. Ross Brawn states that it wont be the end of the discussion.
One day later, it's the end of discussion.
EDIT - I guess it's not.
There will be a ruling within 48 hours apparently: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101476
Red Bull/Renault will no longer be able to use the engine map.
Red Bull/Renault will no longer be able to use the engine map.
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