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Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by Ruslan, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Bill Boddy Whatever way you look at it Alonso refused and Todt vowed never to sign him as team principal. Then when you are team principal of Ferrari with probably the biggest budget on the grid then why would you tell Alonso to walk away from his existing contract? Is it because he did not want to go to the CRB and get in some legal wrangle about contractual obligation and embarrass himself?

    Alonso also probably knew he would be No 2 to Schumacher for many years if he did agree to join Ferrari
     
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  3. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Maybe this is what you meant?
     
  4. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Bill Boddy :thumbsup:
     
  5. Ruslan

    Ruslan Rookie

    Quite familiar with Flavio's history, although I think you need to check your story on Heidi Klum.

    But, either
    1. Flavio had some competency that resulted in him winning 4 championships, and therefore has something useful to say.....or....
    2. Any incompetent can successfully lead a formula one team.

    Not sure what your argument is.
     
  6. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Flavio's achievements are over inflated and as one of his driver's said he knows :censored: about F1. Those 4 championships I think are more down to the drivers than anything to do with his management ...I think through out his Benetton/ Renault management career the wins from all those other drivers total less than 10 GPs. if you take out Alonso and Schumacher.

    Success was more down to them than him

    So we should take Flav's words with a pinch of salt
     
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  7. Ruslan

    Ruslan Rookie

    Well, he is has been successful in more ventures than just F1. So, I do take him seriously as a manager and I always find his comments to be worth listening to.
     
  8. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    No picture of Flavio would scare me away!! ;)
     
  9. The Pits

    The Pits Harumph. Again. Valued Member

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    Oh no you didn't.......

    BRACE BRACE BRACE

    :teary:
     
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  10. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Ruslan
    football really ? tax evasion ?
     
  11. Ruslan

    Ruslan Rookie

    Il_leone

    Hey, its Briatore. understand your dislike.....but, he still managed to win more championships than most team managers do. Just reading the section in Wikipedia on him called "Stance on the future of F1." Here are a few Briatore quotes from there:

    In 1994, he said: "All the team owners are orientated towards the technical side rather than the entertainment side, and this is a big fault. Every meeting that I go to, people are talking about pistons and suspensions. Nobody goes to a race to see that kind of thing… People come to see Schumacher and Senna racing each other."​

    Twelve years later his feelings were much the same: "The people in charge should be businessmen, as they are in Hollywood, not ex-engineers. Nothing costs more, and delivers less entertainment, than hidden technology. And that’s what engineers love most of all."​

    On 20 March 2014 he said... "They delegated the writing of rules to engineers who do not care about the fans or entertainment, If Formula One does not change again in the near future, then the audience will be lost. Look at the comments on the internet, in blogs, on Twitter – they did not like the Australian Grand Prix. It was an indecipherable and depressing show. This is unacceptable and now we have chaos" said Briatore.​

    On 12 June 2014 he said: "I do not like this new Formula One. It's not our Formula 1." "He pointed a finger at cars that "do not make a noise", drivers having to "save fuel" and "fake overtaking". He added: "It is no longer a sport of gladiators, it is a sport of accountants."​

    Anyhow, it is well known that he did not know anything about the engineering, and really did not care. Obviously, he was successful in spite of that.
     
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  12. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Ruslan He is right on that part but when the team bosses fight for direction of the sport - they are actually listening to engineers not race drivers because the extra money and resource into engineering gives its a more competitive edge than say a driver can
     
  13. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Well, you asked for it -
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  14. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    Finger slowly moves towards mod tools ban button............ :clip:
     
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  15. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    Oh please, that's tame. On our old forum we had a colour version!!! :o:snigger:
     
  16. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    Not going to believe you until it's posted in this one.
     
  17. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    Nooooooooo

    Please, no more pictures of Flabio's budgie smugglers

    :please:
     
  18. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    I'd love to oblige you gethinceri however, our old forum is gone, kaputski, can't get to it anymore :bawl: and the person who posted it has moved continents to get married. Sadly we're no longer in touch.

    Plus, I wouldn't do that to cider_and_toast, I'd be worried about what it would do to his blood pressure if I did ;)

    Edit: a quick google search brought it up. Now, dare I post it? Or will it get me banned!
     
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  19. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    It doesn't exist then.
     
  20. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    Yes, it does, see :p
    Flavio.jpg

    Don't look cider_and_toast!!:no::no:
     
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  21. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    Oh, yes, that one.
    That used to appear here, too.
     

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