Grand Prix 2012 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Doesn't time fly! The summer break is approaching the end and after an astonishing Olympics which gripped a nation, the attention now turns across the Channel to see if another Brit can continue his push for glory. Victory in Hungary saw Lewis Hamilton reignite his stuttering season and closed (however small) the gap to Alonso to just over 40 points. The update package introduced in Germany have thrown McLaren back to the front again and just in time as any longer and Hamilton would have been out of the title battle just like his team-mate has been after a nightmare summer for Button. Hamilton has generally gone well at Spa with 1 win, a third place and a fourth. Although depending on your viewpoint it should be 2 wins and a fourth after the 2008 mess.

Although the true king of Spa has returned to the throne in the Lotus and with wins in 2004,2005,2007 and 2009 (close to winning in 2008 as well) not many would bet against the Iceman taking his first victory of the season at his favourite track. The Lotus has been in good form in recent races and a second and third in Hungary proved that where they pushed Hamilton from lights to flag but couldn't quite get past the McLaren driver.

Belgium is famous for it's 4 seasons in a hour in all different parts of the track weather and no doubt if rain is about that plays into the hands of the Championship leader Alonso as the Ferrari is the quickest car in the wet but possibly only the 4th quickest car in the dry, that was evident at Hungary anyway, whether that translates to Spa it is unknown, however Ferrari have traditionally been quick at Spa having won more times there (16) than anyone else so they/Alonso will be in the mix on race day, well let's face it, Massa won't be.

The big unknown here is Red Bull, having had to make several changes to their car to stop make sure it is legal and it has affected performance in recent races and they weren't in the hunt in Hungary. Indeed, Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel is on the longest winless streak since he joined Red Bull in 2009 having not won since Bahrain in April and the young German is currently a few points behind Mark Webber who has had somewhat of a resurgance this year having won at Monaco and Silverstone to become the leading chase driver in the Championship behind Alonso. No doubt Red Bull will be keen to avoid the infighting that nearly cost them the 2010 Championship and to ensure that they don't fall foul of any more FIA regulations as any more problems could see them slip behind Hamilton and possibly even Raikkonen.

Raikkonen is viewed by many as the dark horse for the Championship. He's only a few points behind Hamilton despite having yet to win a race this season which is a testament to his consistency, something which so nearly got him the 2003 title despite only winning one race all year (Malaysia). He's closed down bigger gaps in the past (2007) so he could play a major part in the Championship and if he doesn't ultimately end up in the mix at the end of the season, he'll certainly play a part in terms of taking points off other drivers as he will want to be in contention for podiums and wins as the first win has eluded him so far. He's certainly having a very successful comeback so far and has shown that the 2 years he's had out hasn't affected him whatsoever.

For Galahad 's circuit write up - http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
Also for all of you wondering about Maldonado replays did show he did not jump the start, but in an interview he said he thought he jumped it and that his hand slipped off the clutch.
He most certainly did jump the start, The sky control app showed he was half a car length ahead of his start box before the lights went out.
 
AWESOME race by Button that will silence the detractors who said he should think about hanging up his helmet

on another note GROSJEAN I am hearing is banned for 1 race
 
The Artist..... Some swerves are necessary and 'dangerous driving' is only penalised in extreme cases, mainly it's 'causing a collision' that penalties are given out for.

MCLS If that's true, I think it's a bit over the top personally, considering punishments given out to the likes of Maldonado in the not so distant past.
 
He most certainly did jump the start, The sky control app showed he was half a car length ahead of his start box before the lights went out.

OK well the replay I saw gave a different angle that made it look like he didn't. I don't think he should be penalized for it though cuz look where it got him. Out of the race.

As for Grosjean he has been involved in a lot of accidents mainly at the start but not all were his fault and the ones that were his fault were simply inadvertent mistakes due to being in extremely closed quarters. Doesn't deserve a ban for me unless they would have given Maldonado one earlier this season. Not to criticize Maldonado but Grosjean is definitely not worse than him. d'Ambrosio to drive at Monza? We could get to see what he's made of in a competitive car, a season in a Virgin is not indicative of anything.
 
If you watch the head on shot soccerman17 Maldonado doesn't look to have jumped the start - I think he was moving forwards before the lights went out and then blasted down the middle just after they had gone out. When you see a shot from the side, or from the starters box he clearly jumps the start.
 
Well, only just finished watching the race, and where to start!!

Firstly, dominant win for JB, hopefully put him in a strong frame of mind for the rest of the season. Lewis had a weekend to forget, Grosjean with a top notch piece of amateur buffoonery, a race ban seems appropriate.

Strong from Vettel, good from Raikkonen, and generally with the mixed strategies there was a lot of interesting racing.

For me, though, it was a real shame that the start took out Alonso and Hamilton, and Perez, as it looked to be a very interesting prospect.

And not a lot of change to the sharp end of the WDC.

Oh,and a change of underwear for Mr Alonso.
 
As much as I think Grosjean is a nice guy, and is in no way malicious - the right decision has been made. His accident was dangerous and he has made similar clumsy moves at the starts of races, e.g. Monaco.

As for Maldonado turning over a new leaf after the summer break. He now has two 5 place grid penalties for Monza. . .
 
I think the ban for Grosjean is incredibly harsh. Yes, it was stupid and careless, but a ten-place penalty would have been sufficient, considering the relative severity of penalties handed out this season. Also, the effect of the incident was far more pronounced and serious than the cause, so from that respect Grosjean was unlucky. Does anyone remember Japan 2010, where Petrov did something similar to Hulkenburg? The penalty given to Petrov was nowhere near as severe as the one today considering the similarities of the incidents. It seems that the stewards are penalising based on the effects of incidents, rather than the causes. At Suzuka last year, when Vettel 'chopped' Button at the start, some quick thinking from Button ensured that (in my opinion) Vettel didn't recieve a penalty, yet the move from Vettel was the same. One last example, Hungary 2010. Schumacher forced Barrichello against the wall, very dangerous driving, yet as there was no effect the penalty wasn't as severe as Grosjean's despite more dangerous driving.
Yes, Grosjean was stupid and deserves a grid drop or something similar. But we have to remember that this is the start of the race, where the drivers are close together and aiming to improve their position. But, sadly, the stewards have been caught up in the effect of the incident, by giving a harsh penalty, when they should be focussing on the incident independently (to the pile-up at the first corner).
 
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