Grand Prix 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Anyone fancy a protest?

Controversially it was announced that the Bahrain Grand Prix would go ahead despite opposition from almost everyone and the events that were happening in Bahrain both last year and again recently haven't seen the postponement of the 2012 race like the 2011 event. Reaction to the news has been mixed but it seems that the decision is final and there will once again be F1 cars in the Gulf state. The last race was held at the start of the 2010 season and by all accounts was the dullest race of the season with durable tyres and little overtaking with the only action at the front being a problem with Sebastian Vettel dropping him from first to fourth giving Fernando Alonso a win on his Ferrari debut with Felipe Massa finishing second, how that must feel a long time ago now for both the drivers and the team. Thankfully the painful extended modifications on the track have been abandoned for this year and the 'old' spec layout used from 2004-9 will be used which wasn't actually to bad and with DRS, KERS and the Pirelli tyres should provide for close racing and numerous overtakes.

Nico Rosberg will go into the Grand Prix weekend on the back of his best weekend in the sport. After taking his maiden pole by a margin on Saturday he successfully converted this into a maiden victory by winning by over 20 seconds from the Mclaren pair of Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton. The Mclarens battled various traffic issues and pit stop problems to claim the podium places in a titanic scrap where, at one point, only a handful of seconds seperated 2nd-10th. It is surprising that with so many cars in very close proximity for over half of the race that there was no crashes and barely any contact but there were cars flying about (in Webber's case literally) as cars hit the cliff with Kimi Raikkonnen being the primary case has he slipped from second to 14th as the tyres gave up on him and he even lost 8 places on one lap and that was without any spins or damage.

Over at Red Bull it is a complete contrast to 12 months ago as Sebastian Vettel struggles to get on the podium let alone win races while Mark Webber currently holds the upper hand in the team by leading 3-0 in qualifying and being higher in the drivers championship. This current superiority was emphasised late on in the Chinese Grand Prix when he drove around the outside of Vettel down at turn 14. Without the EBD the Red Bull has lost it's superiority over the rest of the field and this season is a true test of Vettel's racecraft and a true evaluation of where he stacks up as one of the great world champions and at the moment I would say he was a 6-7/10 as he has made some good overtaking moves and apart from a puncture in Malaysia has always moved forward on the grid from his starting position, but then that wasn't hard to do in China considering he started 11th on the grid, his lowest qualifying position since 2009 when Brawn were running riot.

The problems continue at Ferrari as Fernando Alonso fought the car to finish in 9th which could have been higher but for a combination of tyre of degradation and traffic at the wrong times that cost him time, but this is still a lot stronger than Massa in the sister Ferrari who continues to show that he shouldn't be a Ferrari driver after a mediocre race to 13th, he is showing almost no signs of improvement and he is rarely threatening the points these days let alone the podium and the championship challenging days of 2007 and 2008 must feel like a long time ago, if there isn't any improvement surely this will be his final year in a Ferrari seat.

So far 2012 has seen 3 different race winners in 3 races with Lewis Hamilton leading the championship from team mate Jenson Button despite Button winning the Australian Grand Prix which shows that Hamilton is getting back his consistency which won him the 2008 championship and shows that he has got over the demons of 2011 which is only a good thing for the championship fight with numerous people already showing that they are capable of fighting for the championship and today perhaps Rosberg threw his hat into the ring as a possible contender, it is certainly has the potential to be one of the closest championships in recent years and makes a change from the Red Bull dominated 2011 with Vettel steamrollering the field.

For Galahads brilliant circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/bahrain-international-circuit/
 
Still looks cloudy for tomorrow - that could affect the relative pace - could benefit the Mercs? (still a chance of rain for tomorrow)
 
Webber has just said he didn't leave enough of a gap to Di Resta, so although Di Resta was not intending to complete the lap he was still on a flying lap as he needed to set sector times. No penalty (I would have thought!)

Yeah, but to be fair to Mark, you need to leave a big gap to a driver who is on his inlap, and it was impossible for him to know he was. I was just surprised as I expected Paul to move offline for him going that slow. I hope they don't give pens for that. Would be a tad harsh.
 
Still looks cloudy for tomorrow - that could affect the relative pace - could benefit the Mercs? (still a chance of rain for tomorrow)
Also as chance of pigs flying to mars... but there is actually a chance of rain!
It will be nice to Schumi fighting his way through the field though, Rosberg cracks under pressure again though
 
Hmm. He was going slow on the racing line, wasn't he? Should behave jumped out of the way rather than forcing Mark to have to drive around him?

I agree, a penalty should be set in my opinion, as driving round and having slightly dirtier tyres into the last turn may have cost him fractions that count in a close qualy session. He had no good reason to be sitting on the racing line as he wasn't planning on setting a lap.
 
First time this season I havent been at work while qually is on. I'm not sure many people would have picked that grid today (even though it seems a repeat of last year at lots of races). Just hope we don't have the repeat of SV getting ahead, blitzing a few laps to get out DRS zone and the race being a snooze.
 
Just hope we don't have the repeat of SV getting ahead, blitzing a few laps to get out DRS zone and the race being a snooze.

I personally don't think we've seen any evidence that the Red Bull is capable of. I'd make Lewis favourite for the win personally. Red Bull must've compromised something in order to find all that pace.
 
I personally don't think we've seen any evidence that the Red Bull is capable of. I'd make Lewis favourite for the win personally. Red Bull must've compromised something in order to find all that pace.

I can't predict, it I'm not ruling out Alonso or Rosberg yet...
 
I can't predict, it I'm not ruling out Alonso or Rosberg yet...

I'd rule out Alonso, unless it rains, but races are far from predictable so far.

Apparently, FOM delibrately avoided force india on the coverage...

Yeah. I think Martin was alluding to that in commentary and Sky Sports F1 discussed it at the end. They are just making it more controversial than it has to be if they are. :rolleyes:
 
All over twitter! 'I'd love to see how teh FOM try to prevent broadcasting Force India during the race tomorrow' 'FOM and Bernie thnking we wouldn't notice the lack of Force India'
But that did fail slightly when we saw webber getting past di Resta
 
It is great to see Vettel & Hamilton on the front row.........Seb with the advantage of pole position
I don't think I will sleep tonight.......
Bring it on....I do hate this sort of talk....but it says what I'm thinking.

I really feel for Nico...he does seem to get nervous...but after last week, I thought he was sorted...bit more work needed...'I can..... & I will'....got it Nico.
To my mind it was a HUGE MISTAKE that NR did not join LH at McLaren when FA left.
I think NR & LH would be good together in a team....they are similar in that they are honest & IMHO would support each other, with a ' May the best man win' attitude.
Sorry I've rambled on a bit...
 
johnnoble1990 well hopefully the story that LH and JB were concentrating on race pace were true.


With RBR having picked "short" gear ratios for this season McLaren ( and Ferrari, Lotus, Sauber, ...) should be able to overhaul them in a race. With the short gearing and limited in-race availability of DRS, RBR will be struggling to keep up with anyone even with KERS and with the DRS open, never mind overtake - they'll be thumping the rev limiter and still falling back. RBR's only hope is to streak so far ahead at the start while all the other cars are jinking for 2nd and 3rd positions at the first corner.

The odds on a one-finger finish have shortened a bit, even though Das Digitmeister has only this race decided to go with the car that has suited Webber and in which Webber has consistently overcome his team leader - by 8pts over the season so far..
(I am of course assuming that RBR has a team leader, which is a pretty bold leap of faith:whistle: )
 
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