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20 Best Drivers- a survey...

Discussion in 'Off The (Pit) Wall' started by TN23, Jun 29, 2011.

  1. TN23

    TN23 Rookie

    I thought it would be interesting to see who people thought were there twenty best drivers in history. I'll try and set as few limits as possible, but:

    • No driver who is active and under the age of 30 (excluding Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso and Nico Rosberg) can be selected as it is too early to judge their careers
    • This is a survey for interest. It should not get into a 606-style slanging match. If you like, make your point about your choices, don't criticise someone else's choice, just use your own reasoning if necessary.
    • Please select pre-war drivers as well as post-war drivers if you wish.
    There is a way of counting all the responses, it is as follows:
    • The position that you select a driver in is the score he will get.
    • Like FB's WDC scoring system, the lowest scorer will win.
    • Any driver not selected in your top 20 will, if he has been selected by any other person, score 21.
    Here is my top 20, and it will meet and be scored by the above criteria:

    1. Ayrton Senna
    2. Juan Manuel Fangio
    3. Michael Schumacher
    4. Alain Prost
    5. Jim Clark
    6. Tazio Nuvolari
    7. Jackie Stewart
    8. Bernd Rosemayer
    9. Niki Lauda
    10. Nelson Piquet Sr.
    11. Alberto Ascari
    12. Rudolf Carriacciola
    13. Nigel Mansell
    14. Achille Varzi
    15. Stirling Moss
    16. Mika Hakkinen
    17. Jack Brabham
    18. Emerson Fittipaldi
    19. Gilles Villeneuve
    20. Mario Andretti
     
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  3. Hamberg

    Hamberg FOTA VIP, I've got the avatar to prove it :) Contributor

    Couple of questions first - why no drivers under 30 (Alonso has done a pretty good job for instance) and why are we then allowed to include Hamilton, Rosberg and Vettel in our lists?

    Also I I thought the official F1 WDC as it stands now started in 1950 so which war are you referring to? Or is this pre F1 World Championship? This may sound pedantic so apologies, I'm just wondering if there are some typos before we get going that's all.
     
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  4. TN23

    TN23 Rookie

    I'll edit mine, as I forgot about Alonso, apologies!

    I don't feel its accurate to try and judge those who have been in F1 for a short time, and I'm looking to avoid a confrontational Vettel is Jesus/no he's not he's worse than Doornbos argument- there's a thread for that!

    The official F1 championship did begin in 1950, but I reckon there are those who would like to nominate a pre-war driver. You can name a mixture (like I have done, of pre and post-war drivers), so its ok to use drivers from before and after the war.

    I was on auto-pilot there, with the Alonso thing, that's all, apologies again!
     
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  5. Hamberg

    Hamberg FOTA VIP, I've got the avatar to prove it :) Contributor

    No worries I thought that might be the case! Not understanding keeping Rosberg in though? He is one of my favourites but he isn't a race winner yet so maybe just stick to the WDC under 30 which does make more sense. Your thread. I'm useless though as I've only watched from the 90's so my list will be a poll spoiler.
     
  6. TN23

    TN23 Rookie

    Go for who you like, anyone from the nineties would be fine!
     
  7. Slyboogy

    Slyboogy World Champion Contributor

    Is it possible to vote two drivers in one position?
     
  8. TN23

    TN23 Rookie

    What, like putting Schumacher 1st and 2nd? If so, no
     
  9. Slyboogy

    Slyboogy World Champion Contributor

    I said two drivers in one position, not one driver in two positions...
     
  10. TN23

    TN23 Rookie

    Sorry,
    That's fine. Really not with it at the mo...
     
  11. tooncheese

    tooncheese Hans Heyer Contributor

    1. Juan Fangio
    2. Rudy Carracciola
    3. Schumacher (Guess which ;))
    4. Clark
    5. Senna & Prost
    6. Tazio Nuvolari
    7. J.Brabham
    8. J.Stewart
    9. Lauda
    10. Piquet Snr
    11. Our Nige
    12. Our Stirling
    13. Fittipaldi
    14. G.Hill
    15. Jochen Rindt
    16. G.Villenueve
    17. Ascari
    18. Chiron
    19. Mika
     
  12. Slyboogy

    Slyboogy World Champion Contributor

    Oh my god Ralf???!!! :shocked:
     
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  13. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    To be pedantic, if there are two equal thirds should not the next driver be fifth? After all, there are four in front of him.
     
  14. Jos the Boss

    Jos the Boss Champion Elect

    1. Senna,Schumi
    3.Clark
    4.Prost
    5.G.Hill
    6. Stewart
    7. Fangio
    8.Hakkinen
    9. G.Villuenve
    10. Barrichello
    11. Moss
    12. Mansell
    13. J.Villeunve
    14. Scheckter
    15. Hunt
    16. D. Hill
    17. Keke Rosberg
    18. Alan Jones
    19. Fittipaldi
    20. Nelson Piquet Snr
     
  15. Johnny Carwash

    Johnny Carwash Champion Elect Contributor

    1. Jim Clark
    2. Juan Manuel Fangio
    3. Ayrton Senna
    4. Michael Schumacher
    5. Alain Prost
    6. Jackie Stewart
    7. Niki Lauda
    8. Jack Brabham
    9. Stirling Moss
    10. Nigel Mansell
    11. Nelson Piquet Snr
    12. Mika Hakkinen
    13. Alberto Ascari
    14. Graham Hill
    15. Gilles Villeneuve
    16. Emerson Fittipaldi
    17. Ronnie Peterson
    18. Mario Andretti
    19. Jochen Rindt
    20. Alan Jones
     
  16. TN23

    TN23 Rookie

    Current Scores (As of Johnny Carwash's post):

    Senna 10
    M.Schumacher 11
    Fangio 13
    Clark 13
    Prost 18
    Stewart 27
    Lauda 47
    Mansell 47
    Moss 48
    Piquet Sr. 52
    Brabham 54
    G.Hill 54
    Nuvolari 55
    Carriacciola 56
    Hakkinen 56
    G.Villeneuve 60
    Ascari 62
    Fittipaldi 67
    Rosemayer 71
    Barrichello 73
    J.Villeneuve 76
    Scheckter 77
    Varzi 77
    Rindt 77
    Hunt 78
    D.Hill 79
    K.Rosberg 80
    Jones 80
    Peterson 80
    Andretti 80
    Chiron 82

    All unstated drivers score 84.
     
  17. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel In the zone. Valued Member

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    I've never seen most of them, but from what I've gleaned (of post 1950 drivers)
    1. Jim Clark
    2. Juan Fangio
    3. Michael Schumacher
    4. Alain Prost
    5. Ayrton Senna
    6. Jackie Stewart
    7. Niki Lauda
    8. Emerson Fittipaldi
    9. Nelson Piquet
    10. Stirling Moss
    11. Mario Andretti
    12. Jody Scheckter
    13. Graham Hill
    14. Dan Gurney
    15. Mika Hakkinen
    16. Gilles Villeneuve
    17. Damon Hill
    18. Nigel Mansell
    19. Jenson Button
    20. Carlos Reutemann
     
  18. RevMaxPower

    RevMaxPower Banned

    Unfortunately I cannot remember 20 names but Fangio, Moss, Stewart, Hill, Schumacher, Senna, Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel and Clark would be my top 10 - and not necessarily in that order...:thumbsup: (apologies for bending the 'age' limits TN.)
     
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  19. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    1. Clark
    2. Fangio
    3. Schumacher
    4. Stewart
    5. Prost
    6. Moss
    7. Senna
    8. Andretti
    9. Denis Hulme
    10. Gurney
    11. Tom Kristensen
    12. Sebastian Loeb
    13. Fittipaldi
    14. Pedro Rodriguez
    15. Richard Petty
    16. A.J. Foyt
    17. Rindt
    18. Jo Siffert
    19. G. Hill
    29. Chris Amon

    The rules did not make it mandatory that they be primarily Formula 1 drivers, or even have participated in F1 at all. There have been, and still are, great drivers that never take part in F1 but excel in other forms. Kristensen is, to my mind, the finest sports car driver of the generation. Petty was the best stock-car racer ever. Versatility ranks high on my list of talents needed to be among the greatest.
     
  20. RevMaxPower

    RevMaxPower Banned

    I forgot Sebastien Loeb. I am SO sorry. The best driver EVER.:thankyou:
     
  21. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Of the current crop of F1 drivers only Alonso makes my top 20. I also wanted to include Elio de Angelis as I rated him as far better driver than Nigel Mansell but, unfortunately, he was taken before he was able to prove his abilities to the World. I was also tempted to include Tommy Byrne but felt the need to include some rally boys.

    1 Clark
    2 M Schumacher
    3 Fangio
    4 Senna
    5 Prost
    6 Stewart
    7 Lauda
    8 Moss
    9 E Fittipaldi
    10 J Brabham
    11 G Hill
    12 Piquet Snr
    13 G Villeneuve
    14 Alonso
    15 Mario Andretti
    16 D Hill
    17 Carlos Sainz
    18 Ickx
    19 Hakkinen
    20 Walter Rohl
     

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