20 Best Drivers- a survey...

[jez101]

I can't honestly comment on drivers I have never seen, so if they finished (or were finished) before 1980, they aren't on my list.

1. Senna
2. Vettel
3. Prost
4. Schumacher (version 1, pre 2006)
5. Mansell
6. Hakkinen
7= Alonso
7= Hamilton
9. Piquet Sr
10. Jones
11. Lauda
12. K Rosberg
13= D Hill
13= Button
15= G Villeneuve
15= J Villeneuve
17. Pironi
18. Arnoux
19. Montoya
20. Massa

If you are stuck, see Wikipedia's list of Formula One drivers and their career records. I had failed to appreciate how well Massa in particular has done (15 poles, 11 wins) and might have included Alesi but for the stat, 32 podiums, 1 win???

 

[Namejs]

In the same way as the greatest part of others I will mention only F1 drivers:
1/2 Ayrton Senna
1/2 Michael Schumacher
3 Juan Manuel Fangio
4 Alain Prost
5 Jim Clark
6 Jackie Stewart
7 Jack Brabham
8 Niki Lauda
9 Alberto Ascari
10 Mika Hakkinnen
11 Fernando Alonso
12 Nelson Piquet
13 Graham Hill
14 Emerson Fittipaldi
15 Stirling Moss
16 Nigel Mansell
17 Lewis Hamilton
18 Mario Andretti
19 Gilles Villeneuve
20 Keke Rosberg

 

[mjo]

Here goes...

1 Fangio - 5x champion (with 4 different teams) when you were more likely to be killed
2 Stirling Moss - 4x runner-up, incredibly fair
3 Jackie Stewart - 3x champion, changed f1 forever (for the better)
4 Niki Lauda - 3x champion, twice after the horrible accident, showed incredible courage to come back
5 Prost -4x champion, personally I thought he was better than Senna
6 Senna - almost as good as Prost
7 M.Schumacher - 7x champion, great GP's (Hungary 98) but was helped ALOT by Ferrari
8 Ascari - led half the laps he raced
9 Hakkinen - brilliantly controlled, 2x champion
10 Villeneuve - tragically killed - who can forget Spain 81???

11-20:
11 Clark
12 Brabham
13 G.Hill
14 Nige
15 Fittipaldi
16 Piquet (Sr. - to avoid any confusion!)
17 Alonso
18 Raikonnen
19 D.Hill
20 Vettel / Hamilton - can't decide who's better

 

[Slyboogy]

Quite agree with your list there mjo

 

[Lewywo4]

1. J. Fangio
2. A. Senna
3. J. Clark
4. S. Moss
5. J. Stewart
6. M. Schumacher
7. A. Prost
8. N. Lauda
9. N. Piquet Sr.
10. N. Mansell
11. E. Fittipaldi
12. J. Rindt
13. G. Hill
14. J. Brabham
15. G. Villeneuve
16. M. Andretti
17. R. Peterson
18. D. Gurney
19. M. Hakkinen
20. D. Hill

 

[Speshal]

Of the current crop of F1 drivers only Alonso makes my top 20.

2 M Schumacher

 

[FB]

Oh alright then, although based on his current performances I don't think Schumie would make my Top 20 of 2011

 

[TN23]

Current scores (Belatedly!)

Senna 36
M.Schumacher 37
Fangio 46
Prost 51
Clark 56
Stewart 78
Lauda 113
Moss 114
Piquet Sr. 140
Mansell 152
Hakkinen 155
G.Hill 157
E.Fittipaldi 158
J.Brabham 160
G.Villeneuve 169
Ascari 184
Rindt 190
Mario Andretti 190
Nuvolari 202
Carracciola 203
D.Hill 206
Gurney 210
Scheckter 215
K.Rosberg 217
Jones 217
Rosemayer 218
Hulme 220
Barrichello 220
Button 221
Kristensen 221
Loeb 222
Peterson 223
P.Rodriguez 224
Varzi 224
Hunt 225
Petty 225
J.Villeneuve 225
A.J. Foyt 226
Sainz 227
Pironi 227
Siffert 228
Ickx 228
Arnoux 228
Raikkonen 228
Chiron 229
Montoya 229
Reutemann 230
Amon 230
Rohl 230
Massa 230

All unstated drivers score 231. Denotes top 20 drivers.

 

[cider_and_toast]

I think I've just blown a brain fuse or two trying to compile my list. It is hard to sort a list when you've only got old footage and reputation to go on for some drivers but at the same time I just don't see how you can miss out some great names who quite clearly rank among the best so..... for what it's worth.

1) Jim Clark
2) JM Fangio
3) Alain Prost
4) Ayrton Senna
5) Sir Stirling Moss
6) Jackie Stewart
7) Michael Schumacher
8) Niki Lauda
9) Nelson Piquet
10) Jack Brabham
11) Graham Hill
12) Ronnie Peterson
13) Fernando Alonso
14) Nigel Mansell
15) Mario Andretti
16) Emerson Fittipaldi
17) Gilles Villeneuve
18) Mika Hakkinen
19) John Surtees
20) Keke Rosberg

 

[TN23]

Current Standings

Senna 41
M.Schumacher 44
Fangio 48
Prost 54
Clark 57
Stewart 84
Moss 119
Lauda 121
Piquet Sr. 149
Mansell 166
G.Hill 168
J.Brabham 170
Hakkinen 173
E.Fittipaldi 174
G.Villeneuve 186
Mario Andretti 205
Ascari 205
Rindt 211
Nuvolari 223
Carracciola 224
D.Hill 227
Gurney 231
Peterson 235
Scheckter 236
K.Rosberg 237
Jones 238
Rosemayer 239
Hulme 241
Barrichello 241
Button 242
Kristensen 242
Loeb 243
P.Rodriguez 245
Varzi 245
Hunt 246
Petty 246
J.Villeneuve 246
A.J. Foyt 247
Sainz 248
Pironi 248
Siffert 249
Ickx 249
Arnoux 249
Raikkonen 249
Surtees 250
Chiron 250
Montoya 250
Reutemann 251
Amon 251
Rohl 251
Massa 251


All unstated drivers score 252. Denotes top 20 drivers.

 

[Mryzyz]

1. Alain Prost
2. Juan Manuel Fangio
3. Ayrton Senna
4. Jackie Stewart
5. Jim Clark
6. Jochen Rindt
7. Michael Schumacher
8. Stirling Moss
9. Mario Andretti
10. Niki Lauda
11. Gilles Villeneuve
12. Tazio Nuvolari
13. Bernd Rosemeyer
14. Rudolph Carracciola
15. Emerson Fittipaldi
16. Graham Hill
17. Nelson Piquet
18. Jack Brabham
19. Alberto Ascari
20. Nigel Mansell

 

[TN23]

Senna 44
M.Schumacher 51
Fangio 50
Prost 55
Clark 62
Stewart 88
Moss 127
Lauda 131
Piquet Sr. 166
G.Hill 184
Mansell 186
J.Brabham 188
E.Fittipaldi 189
Hakkinen 194
G.Villeneuve 197
Mario Andretti 214
Rindt 217
Ascari 224
Nuvolari 235
Carracciola 238
D.Hill 248
Gurney 252
Rosemayer 252
Peterson 256
Scheckter 257
K.Rosberg 258
Jones 259
Hulme 262
Barrichello 262
Button 263
Kristensen 263
Loeb 264
P.Rodriguez 266
Varzi 266
Hunt 267
Petty 267
J.Villeneuve 267
A.J. Foyt 268
Sainz 269
Pironi 269
Siffert 270
Ickx 270
Arnoux 270
Raikkonen 270
Surtees 271
Chiron 271
Montoya 271
Reutemann 272
Amon 272
Rohl 272
Massa 272


All unstated drivers score 273. Denotes top 20 drivers.

 

[Slyboogy]

Find it hard to judge, and who am I to judge? Anyway what it's worth...

1. Alain Prost
2. Michael Schumacher/Ayrton Senna
3. Juan Manuel Fangio
4. Jim Clark
5. Jackie Stewart
6. Stirling Moss
7. Niki Lauda
8. Nelson Piquet Snr.
9. Jack Brabham
10. Alberto Ascari
11. Gilles Villeneuve
12. Jochen Rindt
13. Graham Hill
14. Emerson Fittipaldi
15. Kimi Raikkonen
16. Fernando Alonso
17. Mika Hakkinen
18. Nigel Mansell
19. John Surtees
20. Didier Pironi

 

[Incubus]

1. Juan Fangio
2. Rudy Carracciola
3. Schumacher (Guess which )
4. Clark
5. Senna & Prost
6. Tazio Nuvolari

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How can you have Senna on a par with Prost at number 5, and then put Nuvalori at 6?
Surely if you're going to put 2 drivers equal on the same position then you have to leave out the next position and go directly to number 7, or you end uo with one more driver than the list allows for?

Not that I'd want to come across as pedantc or anything. Of course.

 

[Slyboogy]

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How can you have Senna on a par with Prost at number 5, and then put Nuvalori at 6?
Surely if you're going to put 2 drivers equal on the same position then you have to leave out the next position and go directly to number 7, or you end uo with one more driver than the list allows for?

Not that I'd want to come across as pedantc or anything. Of course.

I do that all the time

Is it really fair to have two people in the joint position, let's say 5th now two guys are 5th, why should the next guy be 7th instead of 6th?

That's my logic...might not agree with me but I do tend to think in a strange way

 

[Mryzyz]

He should be 7th because there are 6 guys who are better than him.

If you were to draw up, say, a list he would be 7th from the top.

 

[tooncheese]

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How can you have Senna on a par with Prost at number 5, and then put Nuvalori at 6?
Surely if you're going to put 2 drivers equal on the same position then you have to leave out the next position and go directly to number 7, or you end uo with one more driver than the list allows for?

Not that I'd want to come across as pedantc or anything. Of course.

Auto list wouldn't let me take out a number, and I couldn't be bothered to rewrite every number manually.

 

[FB]

Another attempt to find out who is the best driver since the Championship started in 1950.

The Rightest Stuff

 

[cider_and_toast]

I don't care what method is used but Mansell rated higher than Lauda and Stewart is wrong on every level.