Grand Prix 2011 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's a long summer and the key discussions aren't about the F1.

As we are in the middle of the summer break, the SKY/BBC deal continues to take precedence over any on track action we saw at Hungary, which is a shame as we saw a cracker of a race where Jenson Button eventually won his second race of the season ahead of Sebastian Vettel who extended his lead at the top of the championship yet again and surely it takes a miracle for anyone to overtake him now with less than half the races to go.

However with Belgium coming closer on the calender, it seems as if Red Bull has lost the dominance it held over the first half of the season with McLaren appearing to have the best all round package with 4 wins now this year with 2 for Button and 2 for Hamilton. Ferrari aren't far behind and are perhaps the best team in warm conditions but that remains to be seen after a series of damp and cold races. However it would still be a foolish person to bet against Red Bull going into the Belgian Grand Prix where the fast sweeping corners and technical hairpins will no doubt play to their advantage.

Spa Francorchamps is regarded (quite rightly) as the best driver circuit on the calendar with the famous circuit having many variations from its original form to the current version which was last changed in 2006 to incorporate the new pit area and final chicane, the final chicane wasn't popular as both fans and drivers miss the challenging bus stop chicane and the 'new' pit lane which can cause problems.

The grand prix has been famous for it's unpredictable weather with violent storms and half the track being dry and the other wet at the same time and completely random showers, the big example was 2008 where a late shower caught out the entire field and cost Kimi Raikkonen (and eventually Hamilton) the win. In 1998 torrential rain caused one of the worst starts in F1 history where half the field was wiped out on turn 1, eventually (after a restart) Damon Hill won for Jordan in a 1-2 with Ralf Schumacher second, Michael Schumacher famously nearly started a fight with David Coulthard after crashing into him trying to lap him.

Michael Schumacher has an impressive record at this track, winning his first race at the track in 1992 and taking several wins at the track with his last coming in 2002 where he took his seventh world championship. However at the moment it is unlikely that he will add to his list of wins with the Mercedes well off the pace of the leading trio of Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull.

Mercedes might find themselves behind Force India at the race as the track suits them down to a tee, in 2009 Fisichella took a surprise pole position and then took second place just finishing behind Raikkonen in the Ferrari (who always seemed to win at Spa when he was driving there)
Sutil and Di Resta have shown impressive pace recently, with both achieving season bests at the last few races and are closing the gap to the flagging Renault team who have really lost performance since the start of the season with Heidfeld and Petrov dissapointing.

On a personal level I am really looking forward to this race as I have weekend tickets and will be at Pouhon all weekend to bring you the best coverage from the track, (better than these Sky lot anyway)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
Having watched it several times again, I would be stunned if Maldonado is excluded from further proceedings. I don't think Nigel will be terribly enthused with Lewis' little jink coming out of La Source.

On SPEED's broadcast, which I wasn't watching live and just viewed the replay on, Steve Matchett was admonishing Hamilton.
 
Maybe the jink was Hamilton starting to go right, seeing Maldonado, and then correcting left again?

As with all of these incidents, we will never know the full story.

As Brundle said a while ago though, Hamilton is seen as being in the wrong before he gets in the car, so it's not surprising that some are apportioning blame to him.

Let's see what the stewards say.
 
Would someone please clarify whether the session was over at the time of the crash that damaged Hamilton's car? I thought there were still a few seconds left and Maldonado was trying to put in a lap?
 
I hate this waiting. And Mansell doesnt like Lewis much. If Lewis gets a penalty for that it will be even worse than the last time they screwed him at Spa!
 
For a start Maldonado was not starting a new hot lap because the checkered flag had gone. The session had finished for both of them and so that's why I think Lewis was surprised when he saw Maldonado try and overtake him, hence why he moved right then left immediately after. Following that, Lewis just took the normal line round the track, but Maldonado just cut him up and didn't move with the left to right flow of the track at that point. As the commentators said, there is so much track there, why isn't he giving him more room. Ridiculous.
 
Maybe the jink was Hamilton starting to go right, seeing Maldonado, and then correcting left again?

That's what I was thinking too. And if I was Lewis, that would definitely be my excuse.

The troubling thing is that they had just had the slightest of contact in the final chicane, and Maldonado nearly got in the way of Lewis' final attempt to secure a spot in Q3.

Let's see what the stewards say.

One of the most frightening sentences an F1 fan can hear.
 
Lewis will get a penalty for nothing again. I just hate the stewards who pick on him because he is the fastest out there and the most talented!
 
Jaime has secured his highest ever qualifying position with 6th, a great job from him.

A good position also for Nico in 5th.

Of course, it all depends on what the weather is going to be like tomorrow and who has a dry set up and who has a wet set up.

d'Ambrosio, Liuzzi, Ricciardo and Schumacher all failed to qualify with a time within 107% of the fastest time in Q1.
 
Hamilton claims his suspension was slightly damaged, amongst other things, so he did a good job to get P2.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94010

"I think once the flag is out and the red lights are on there is no need to be racing - there should never ever be an incident."

That says it all really. Also let's not forget Hamilton was down in 13th or so and heading out of Q2 had he not pulled that banzai move.
 
I'm not impressed. Happily watching the press conferences and they turned it over to bloody soccerball! Still I'm happy I made it out alive after calling Vettel a :censored: (and sticking my fingers in my ears when his pit-car radio came on after his pole lap) in the German bar.

Very disappointed in Maldonado and McLaren with Button. As I didn't get to see the interviews can someone please tell me what happened with the call for Button to box?
 
Lewis will get a penalty for nothing again. I just hate the stewards who pick on him because he is the fastest out there and the most talented!

Let's not get carried away Gert. I'll be furious if there is a penalty as well, but we all know that the stewards pick on Lewis because he is black, not because he's the fastest.

(At least Ali G says so)

edit - adding a smiley just in case :snigger:
 
............ 1. No-one has been punished yet.
2. This is the sort of outburst that really shouldn't be going on here!
3. Your opinion is subjective!

I have a feeling he will get a penalty. And I am not having a go at any member or I didn't swear and sometimes I do hate the stewards because of the wrong decisions they make.
 
I'm not impressed. Happily watching the press conferences and they turned it over to bloody soccerball! Still I'm happy I made it out alive after calling Vettel a :censored: (and sticking my fingers in my ears when his pit-car radio came on after his pole lap) in the German bar.

Very disappointed in Maldonado and McLaren with Button. As I didn't get to see the interviews can someone please tell me what happened with the call for Button to box?
Jens said it was a misunderstanding. He miscalculated his laps and was slowing down (thats when he let Lewis past). He should have been doing another fast one.
 
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