Current Red Bull Racing

Red Bull Racing

FIA Entry: Red Bull Racing Renault
Car 1: Sebastien Vettel
Car 2: Mark Webber
Engine: Renault V8
Team Owner: Dietrich Mateschitz
Team Principal: Christian Horner
Chief Technical: Office Adrian Newey
Chief Designer: Rob Marshall
Race Engineer Car 1: Guillaume “Rocky” Rocquelin
Race Engineer Car 2: Ciaron Pilbeam

Stats as of end 2010

First Entered 2005
Races Entered 107
Race Wins 15
Pole Positions 20
Fastest Laps 12
Driver World Championships 1
Constructor World Championships 1

Team History

Before Red Bull

In 1997 Paul Stewart, aided by his father Jackie and the Ford Motor Company, made the leap from F3000 to F1 as an entrant. Jonny Herbert won 1 race for the Stewart team before it was sold off to Ford who re-branded the cars as Jaguar.

Ford stuck with it through thick and thin (mainly thin) through to the end of 2004 before selling the team to Dietrich Mateschitz, who owns the Red Bull drinks brand, for $1 on the understanding he invested $400 million over 3 years

Red Bull Racing

With Christian Horner installed as team principal, McLaren refugee David Coulthard and Christian Klien as the drivers Red Bull went racing. Their first season was certainly more successful than Jaguar had managed, even with the same Cosworth power plant, with Coulthard managing a 4th place at the European Grand Prix and the team finishing 7th in the Constructors Championship.

Adrian Newey joined from McLaren as chief designer for 2006 and Red Bull swapped to Ferrari engines. Coulthard managed a podium at his "home" race in Monaco prompting Christian Horner to jump naked, other than wearing a red cape, into a swimming pool.

Christian Klien, who shared the car with Vitantonio Liuzzi in 2005 and Robert Doornbos in 2006, departed the team for 2007 and was replaced by Mark Webber. The RB3 was the first full "Newey" car and was coupled with a Renault motor. The car was very unreliable, suffering from a variety of different problems but Webber managed a podium at the European Grand Prix and the team finished 5th in the WCC.

Retaining the same engine and drivers for 2008 Red Bull slipped back to 7th in the WCC and again only managed a single podium, for Coulthard in Canada, but the reliability issues which plagued the car the previous season were mainly resolved.

2009 was Red Bull's break through year. With Coulthard having retired Webber was joined by Red Bull junior driver Sebastien Vettel. The new rules allowed Newey to design a car which challenged for both the Drivers and Constructors Championship. Webber won 2 races, Vettel 4 and the team climbed to 2nd in WCC taking 3 pole positions en-route.

In 2010 Red Bull justified Mateschitz's investment winning the Constructors title and Vettel the Drivers Championship. They won 9 races through the season, 5 for Vettel and 4 for Webber and took 10 poles. Webber led the title race for much of the season but it was the 23 year old Vettel who stole the title in the last race of the season and became the youngest Champion as a result.

2011 sees the team retain the same driver line up as 2010 and continue with Renault engine power in the new RB7 car.

 

[cider_and_toast]

Hasn't Flavio lost a lot of weight!?! - And why would Christian Horner be having a long chat with Flavio?

Comparing notes on appearing semi naked in pictures?

 

[F1Brits_90]

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Hasn't Flavio lost a lot of weight!?! - And why would Christian Horner be having a long chat with Flavio?

problem asking for more details of those whatsapp messages with his assistant

& also didn't they pay 20m for colopinto to release him out of his williams contract

 

[FB]

If I shook hands with anyone of those three men I would count my fingers after.

 

[Brogan]

Just don't sniff them.

 

[cider_and_toast]

Red Bull have had the biggest young driver development program of the last thirty years and certainly one of the biggest of all time. You would expect as many misses as you would hits.

Having said that, the way they treat their misses is appallingly bad. They've binned drivers in season on four occasions in the last 20 years. (Though Klein and Liuzzi was a bizarre seat sharing agreement in 2005).

They never seem to know what they want from a number 2 driver. I would bet had RBR won the constructors title last year Perez would still be in the car.

 

[F1Brits_90]

also the policy changed from the start 2010s to end. they would only give drivers like Buemi & Vergne 2 years. they were dumped as old news. despite being hugely talented as history has proven. but 4 years later. there giving Sainz, Gasly & recently tsunoda 4-5 yrs in junior team

the way treat their drivers is horrendous Kyvat was in tears during an post qualifying interview in hungary & Algusuari was so effected he quit motorsport to become a DJ

 

[Il_leone]

also the policy changed from the start 2010s to end. they would only give drivers like Buemi & Vergne 2 years. they were dumped as old news. despite being hugely talented as history has proven. but 4 years later. there giving Sainz, Gasly & recently tsunoda 4-5 yrs in junior team

the way treat their drivers is horrendous Kyvat was in tears during an post qualifying interview in hungary & Algusuari was so effected he quit motorsport to become a DJ

Well a team usually sustains it success by succession planning. It seems like Red Bull have no plan if Verstappen leaves therfore the team will be sold.

A good /bad example if the ridiculous No2 driver at Red Bull they never thought to give Lawson mileage in an old car when it became obvious Ricciardo was not going to get promoted

 

[Il_leone]

Has it been confirmed Lawson is demoted?

 

[F1Brits_90]

its as good as

 

[F1Brits_90]

this lawson scenario is dreadful even by RB standards, no old car testing. & 11 races in 2 years. & there giving him 2 races. its almost like they were setting him up to fail, & tsunoda is horrible position because he's got to now get used to the trickiest car to drive with no testing & expected to be right on it from FP2

as been said before at what point do we question helmut marko & his "academy" his recruitment or most likely how he treats them. since they found Verstappen 10yrs ago its been an absoulte carcrash

https://twitter.com/x/status/1904838907235045714

 

[cider_and_toast]

Right Yuki, I've been bigging you up for months now, saying that this should have been your seat. Now don't let me down !!!!

*Watches as Tsunoda also struggles to make any impression in the second Red Bull.

 

[Il_leone]

This makes me laugh Horner said Lawson was chosen ahead of Tsunoda because he had the qualities that we see to deal with the high pressure environment of Red Bull. Looks like their bullish confident is a load of bull. Now is this a bad error of judgement by the Red Bull management or they really don't know what they are doing

 

[Il_leone]

Right Yuki, I've been bigging you up for months now, saying that this should have been your seat. Now don't let me down !!!!

*Watches as Tsunoda also struggles to make any impression in the second Red Bull.

HONDA will give Verstappen shit engines

 

[Il_leone]

this lawson scenario is dreadful even by RB standards, no old car testing. & 11 races in 2 years. & there giving him 2 races. its almost like they were setting him up to fail, & tsunoda is horrible position because he's got to now get used to the trickiest car to drive with no testing & expected to be right on it from FP2

as been said before at what point do we question helmut marko & his "academy" his recruitment or most likely how he treats them. since they found Verstappen 10yrs ago its been an absoulte carcrash

https://twitter.com/x/status/1904838907235045714

Why ain't management accountable for bad decisions

 

[F1Brits_90]

i hope tsunoda does well, but with no testing what is he going to do that gasly, albon, perez (since miami 2023) & lawson couldnt. your chucking him in the deep end

i think red bull have got to lower their expectations they think every driver is verstappen. but even he got a multiple free practices & 15 months in the junior team

 

[Il_leone]

i hope tsunoda does well, but with no testing what is he going to do that gasly, albon, perez (since miami 2023) & lawson couldnt. your chucking him in the deep end

i think red bull have got to lower their expectations they think every driver is verstappen. but even he got a multiple free practices & 15 months in the junior team

It's the ridiculous requirement of their No 2 driver which is impossible to fill. They keep talking about their junior programme well their nearest rivals have got better junior programmes I am referring to Mercedes, Ferrari and Mclaren just look at the grid

 

[cider_and_toast]

If you look at the second seat requirements of front end teams over the years, you can distill the various types of partnership.

Two good drivers, let them race: (ish)

Clark / Hill
Prost / Senna
Hamilton / Button
Hamilton / Rosberg
Leclerc/ Sainz
Norris / Piastri

One good driver and one good enough to support.

Hamilton / Bottas
Schumacher / Barichello
Vettel / Webber

One good driver and one to fill a seat for sponsorship / not to threaten / provide testing info.

Senna / Nakajima
Verstappen / Perez
Hamilton / Kovalainen

Now most teams have been reasonably consistent in their second seat aspirations. Red Bull on the other hand seem to change like the wind.

 

[F1Brits_90]

Il_leone

the junior campaigns are better because they have more preparation time, you look at all the successes & they are drivers that have spent years at backmarkers, learning the ropes without the media glare, Alonso, Sainz, Norris, Russell, Raikkonen. even the 3 successes at red bull they'd spent years at toro rosso, being patient

Problem spotted in Liam Lawson exit decision with major cause found

Bernie Collins has questioned why Red Bull did not give Liam Lawson an extensive TPC programme like Mercedes did with Kimi Antonelli.

www.planetf1.com

 

[Il_leone]

Il_leone

the junior campaigns are better because they have more preparation time, you look at all the successes & they are drivers that have spent years at backmarkers, learning the ropes without the media glare, Alonso, Sainz, Norris, Russell, Raikkonen. even the 3 successes at red bull they'd spent years at toro rosso, being patient

Problem spotted in Liam Lawson exit decision with major cause found

Bernie Collins has questioned why Red Bull did not give Liam Lawson an extensive TPC programme like Mercedes did with Kimi Antonelli.

www.planetf1.com

It's ridiculous how they have reached this decision

 

[Johnny Carwash]

It’s like the domino effect has started. First Dan Fallows, then Rob Marshall, next was Adrian Newey and finally Johnathan Wheatley. These are big shoes to fill, and at the moment it looks like they are irreplaceable. I said somewhere else that the biggest threat to Max Verstappen,this season was Pierre Wache.